I presently have two offers. Both the offers are for SF location. Google L6 - EM Role Base: 210K, 20% Target Bonus Stock: 680K Salesforce Director Base: 250K, 20% Target Bonus Stock: 380K Sign On: 90K (Over two years) My current details: Microsoft, L65 EM role, YoE 14+ Current TC: 320K I am inclined towards the Salesforce just because of the work charter along with great culture and WLB. The domain is something I am really passionate about and my past experience complements it, and I am pretty confident about moving to Senior Director in less than two years. But I am also worried that I may lose out on an excellent opportunity and money that comes with Google offer. Also, stock refreshers at Google are much higher than Salesforce (if I get any). Still, I also believe promotions/growth is challenging & painful in Google, especially moving to L7 from L6 considering my past experience does not complement the work I would be doing at Google and there would be a good ramp-up period. I am looking for a longer-term change and hence looking for someplace to have a good time without burning too much of midnight oil. Also, I am not sure which company would fare well during this Covid situation and beyond. Really looking forward to get genuine suggestions from the Blind community. #google #salesforce #salary #offer #l6 #director #microsoft
What’s the sign on for google
Google is not giving any sign on
That is weird. Why no sign on with google?
This isn't a tough call. Google is the answer.
YOE as Manager ? How many ICs/Managers do you manage ?
4 years as manager and managing 12 ICs.
100% google. They have low leveled you in Salesforce. You should atleast get sr.Director. But if I were you, I will fight for VP. Titles in Salesforce is very inflated. Refreshers are not guaranteed and even if they did, it is tiny amount compared to Google. Wlb is great, but I see no one complaining wlb in google either. Tell which org you will be joining, I can say if it is shitty or decent.
Infra team in Salesforce
Infra team presence is mostly in Bellevue. It’s a decent org. Again, not very challenging work imo. I made a similar mistake like you 3 years back of joining salesforce vs google. I was IC back then
Actually you can get RSUs upto 500k. I am a director as well but with 9 yoe. You can see how titles are inflated
I checked out levels.fyi and L6 and Director are roughly comparable. 9 yoe and Director seems pretty good. Is it only you or others too around 10 yoe and at Director level?
Since titles are inflated, I won’t go with levels.fyi. Many folks with 9 yoe. I know my peer has only 8 yoe and is a director as well. I know 10 yoe and is VP, but this person had all 10 yoe in Salesforce. Lateral move of PMTS is Director. Atleast get more RSU. You are very low balled on RSU. Did you give them your google offer and ask to match?
Obvious ans is Google. The idea of comparing Google with Salesforce is nothing more than hilarious 😂 You are comparing a Tech driven company with a sales driven company where tech is just for namesake and show off to customers. Sir, if I tell you what kind of tech work we do at Salesforce, trust me you would want to do anything but join salesforce. But yes, if you don’t care for tech work and care for WLB, salesforce is good.
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Step 1, get a giant sign on from google Step 2. Accept google.
Congratulations!!
These inflated titles make me want to apply for Salesforce ! If anyone wants to refer me, please let me know. Would be interested in an EM/Senior EM/Director role. Sorry OP (I did a shameless plug there)
My friend you will be making a lot more in Google. Also after an year in G you will get that SD in force.
Lol, he should get SD now and with a year in Google, he will get VP. Looks like OP negotiated salary than level