Omitting details for anonymity. I'm negotiating an offer with Google, and I have a competing offer from a smaller (public) company. I showed Google the competing offer and they came up 10% short and won't negotiate further. The competing company now bumped their offer to ~20% (60K) greater than Google. Google's offer is in the 80th percentile for the band on levels.fyi. Is there any recourse to get them to budge? Would involving the hiring manager at G help?
Curious on why google isn’t matching the competing offer ?
They said it was too high. I’ve seen (slightly) better for this band on Blind recently.
They know you will choose them no matter what. Show them wrong.
Depends on what role you got at Google. SDE’s get much more and they beat external offers. If the role is in GCP with AppDev as profile, they won’t negotiate.
It’s an SWE role.
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Our data shows you will still probably choose us. The benefits we provide (free meals, home internet reimbursement, great medical coverage, work-life balance, and the Google brand on your resume) is worth much more than that 10-20% TC difference. Another smaller company offered me 100k+ more than Google. It was a tough decision at the time but I’m so glad I chose Google. If you had a Facebook offer on the other hand, the benefits are similar enough that we would definitely match that.
Negotiation leeway also depends on interview performance
Agree. I think you are being capped based on your interview scores and level discussion by HC. Other company is likely seeing you at higher capability. You really have to carefully analyze the Google TC because there is the annual bonus (15%+) and annual refreshers. If you start before EOY you will get refresher after next year. Last orientation looks to be 12/16 so if you are not onboard by then, you miss a whole year of refreshers unless manager throws you a little extra discretionary bonus. Ask for more signing bonus to compensate for that lost refresher.
Google refreshers will probably mean you make more over a multi year period - few companies have refreshers that good.
If you’re a SWE young in your career, chose the company that will give you harder problems to work on. Google will always be there. They will reoffer you at any time in the future and 90% skip the entire interview and move straight to offer. I’m a 10 year tech recruiter out of Boston.
Hello hubspot , I have 12 years of experience and I am currently a director at a tier 2 firm ( non fang ) I have a potential opportunity at google to become a TPM. Pro - entry to google and doubling of salary Con - title wise stepping down the management chain What are your thoughts ?
Uh, double salary, but step back career wise. I'd take the money - hard to know what the future will hold.
Probably not