Im a L6 TPM in my current company. I interviewed with Google for L5/L6 TPM position. I cleared the HC for L4 TPM. Not happy with the outcome. Im making around 300k now. Does it make sense for me to proceed with the Google offer? will they match my current comp? @google Yoe - 15 yrs
Absolutely would not take it, that’s down level by 2 levels
If you call that 2 levels, then all Google new grads are 1 level lower than Amazon new grad, and 56 levels lower than MSFT new grads.
I got down leveled also from Google recently. Pass
Did you pass up the offer?
I will. It is a significant pay cut and I have a family to care for
No! It was related to system design, release management and lot of hypothetical questions like what if scenarios
You can negotiate on your levels, salary when you get the offer w Google. It’s a little known fact but recruiters are encouraged to downlevel and lower TC to create max opportunity for Google.
Everything I read here and on quora from experienced sr. recruiters at Google say level negotiation is not possible. HC decides. You could request a new interview round at higher level, including phone interview. With your prior history, the phone screen will likely shut it down.
That is not true. That’s why I said it’s a little known fact. They tell you that you can not negotiate, etc but in fact you can. I don’t know why people don’t try.
Negotiate with competing offers. Dont accept down leveling.
Agreed. If you think you deserve a higher level, interview with someone else to try and prove it, then the other may fall in line. Also note that recruiters have ability to request changes in comp, even going out of band, so they will come back to you with that rather than a level bump.
I would do it
Lol why
Google > Amazon
After reading this post, I asked recruiter on the day of my G onsite what level am I being considered for, and she said it’s L4. I was shocked as I’m also a L6 TPM at Amazon. Frankly I won’t accept if I end up only getting L4 as I have 17 YOE
Agreed, I interviewed onsite Oct 14th... Still going through the process. I am so turned off by this.
Are you still considering this despite its L4 position?
Not worth with the down level. Also I think they cant match your 300k.