Google final offer, $15K below my current TC

Aug 18, 2018 78 Comments

Staff eng at LinkedIn, current TC of 560k (220k base, 15% bonus, rest from RSU). YoE approx 15.

Google L6 offer first year TC of 544k (220k base, 20% bonus, 55k sign on, 900k RSU). After several back and forth, I'm told this is a "final offer". There is no more room to negotiate.

I know this is quite a competitive offer, but it's still lower than my current TC at LinkedIn, not even accounting the fact that LinkedIn has ESPP and slightly better health plan. Google is where I want to be (for various reasons I prefer to not go into), but this puts me in a difficult situation of taking a pay cut.

What do folks think? Does Google refresher generally make up for this difference in a year or two?

Edit: since I'm receiving several questions about interview & preparation, I'm copying one of the replies from below.

"on-site was 2 coding, 2 system design, 1 behavioral, 1 to discuss my current project. Totally 6 interviews plus lunch).

Preparation was quite intensive.. I consider my self a good "practical" programmer, but not necessarily good in interview format with the time pressure. I put about 6 months of effort to leetcode about 150 medium and 50 hard questions. I didn't put much effort on design as I don't think there is much I can prepare outside of my domain know how.. I generally enjoy doing design and doesn't feel like an interview when doing that. I wish there were more design interviews and fewer coding!

For coding, I actually think I got mostly LC medium questions only, didn't think any were close to the "hard" LC I practiced. Got several coding questions on Graph traversal, DP, trees and Arrays. There was a definite emphasis on writing efficient code in timely manner."

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TOP 78 Comments
  • Tesla / Other qSXN35
    lol. 16k less 😆😆😆
    Aug 18, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      Yeah sure 😊
      I've sightly changed the numbers in the post to make it not-identifiable, but ballpark difference is same.
      Aug 18, 2018
    • LinkedIn Trade
      Common, you are L6.. Don’t crib like a new grad kid for the 16k pre tax!! Think about your passion and long term goal
      Aug 18, 2018
  • McAfee tYcY14
    Why are you even thinking about 15k difference? Google has a better brand and you will likely learn and build lot more cooler stuff. Just bite the bullet already.
    Aug 18, 2018 4
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      MSFT has done quite well too! Stock growth is hard to predict..
      Aug 18, 2018
    • McAfee tYcY14
      :) Agreed. All I can say is, don't sweat about 20k, think long term.
      Aug 18, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Leo Messi
    Drop the offer. Never took a new job with Lower pay, respect yourself.
    Aug 18, 2018 1
    • Marvell USA 🇺🇸
      Not true. It’s not just dollars. Plenty ppl took pay cuts for jobs w big scope and impact.
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Qualcomm DwyerAndy
    While I don't think anyone should switch for lower pay given the effort to prepare and establish yourself in the new team, my opinion is that you should take this. At your level, think of this as doubling your network. The contacts you get and the amount of new people/practices you get exposed to can lead to newer opportunities.

    Phenomenal dedication to solve so many LC questions at your experience, hat tip!
    Aug 18, 2018 1
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      Thanks! Interviews are getting difficult these days.. Hate this leetcode culture, but you have to play the game.
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Facebook kEeN82
    Refreshers will put you far past that after your first year, assuming you can perform at that level. (Based on a number of data points from friends working there)
    Aug 18, 2018 7
    • Google zusammen
      Cme is 1.0 if you have been newly promoted or if you have recently joined Google. It drops to 0.8-0.9 otherwise.
      Oct 26, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng Leo Messi
      Thanks fixme. Although I would assume google refresher varies by org?
      Aug 24, 2019
  • Microsoft Hankhill
    Humblebrag post.
    Aug 18, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      Bragging on an anonymous platform doesn't get me much😂
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Microsoft Hankhill
      Come on, you know the answer to your question at your level. Also a LinkedIn staff friend of mine recently joined as L5, so you are getting a level bump too. Seriously though, if I'm being paid that much as an IC, I'd be more worried about keeping up with current Google L6 guys and the value i would bring
      Aug 18, 2018
  • Amazon
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    Electronic Arts, Google, Nokia, Citrix Systems, Cisco
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    If your heart is at Google, then 15k is a small, small, small price to pay. After taxes that comes to about 8-9k/year. I'll say go for it.
    I have taken pay cut before for a job I really wanted and never had a regret. It not like it'll change your standard of living :-) Listen to your heart.
    Aug 18, 2018 1
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      Thanks, that's useful😊
      Aug 18, 2018
  • Amazon DwgtSchrte
    Hey Op, congrats on the offer and wish you good luck. Yours is a good problem to have and you can't go wrong either way.

    As someone working in AWS and also interested in distributed systems, can you provide some general guidance on how you gained your experience? Was it just choosing your team's and companies carefully? Was it keeping up with the latest research and reading lots of papers? Or side projects that implemented low level systems as well as distributed systems?

    Thanks in advance!
    Aug 19, 2018 3
    • Amazon DwgtSchrte
      Thanks so much for your response.
      Aug 19, 2018
    • When you say cluster manager do you mean replicated SM using Paxos or Raft?
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Amazon megamorphy
    It's not really that much lower. If you like the new job at google, I think it's taking a small pay cut is not a big deal. Also is LinkedIn likely to say at level for several years, or is it just that high because of MSFT acquisition?
    Aug 18, 2018 4
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      Thanks megamorphy. I'm not sure how it maps.. staff at LinkedIn can map to either L5 or L6 depending on your experience and interview information. Sr Staff, I'm guessing should be L7 but I'm not 100% certain.

      What level did you go in at FB. Congrats on your new beginning!
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Amazon megamorphy
      I got 5 at fb. I only have 9 years of experience, so getting 6 level for me would be very rare. Good luck to you at well!
      Aug 18, 2018
  • BlackBerry / Other
    BaronCohen

    BlackBerry Other

    BIO
    Putin’s mistress
    BaronCohenmore
    LinkedIn product quality has gone down since it got acquired. Everything MSFT touches becomes bloated and buggy.
    I’d switch to Google. It’s a better place to work at
    Aug 19, 2018 3
    • BlackBerry / Other
      BaronCohen

      BlackBerry Other

      BIO
      Putin’s mistress
      BaronCohenmore
      Microsoft own them so I’m surprised to hear that they haven’t made their influence felt at LinkedIn
      Aug 19, 2018
    • LinkedIn </sarcasm>
      OP
      They've left us alone for the most part so far. I'm sure there will be some changes in future, but for now it's our own choice and doing.
      Aug 19, 2018

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