Expecting to get a G offer soon and completed team match. Based on discussion with HM I suspect that they are planning to offer E5. Based on levels.fyi this is something of a down level compared to Amazon l6 SDE. Question for googlers, what does the promotion process look like to l6 at google? How difficult is it? Current L6 SDE TC 380k
Don't take a down level.
google l5 == amazon l6 no? google starts at l3 and amazon at l4, unless im confusing things
bouter said G starts at L3, what are you saying?
Hard but fair. L5 and L6 are two different jobs at G, it is not just doing the same thing better or faster. Do not think in terms you are being downleveled, think in terms of TC and chances of success. I have seem Amazon L6 being hired and fail to perform as L6 in G
L5 G equals l6 amazon
This
Also ppl are obsessed with level. Who cares if it’s a better fit and equal or more money. Level and “scope” is just a way to sell you more work because you feel more important with a higher level. None of that matters, it’s a paycheck for time given to a company to complete some tasks. I went from just promoted amazon l7 to google l5. Life is better and my comp is better.
The only time downlevel makes sense is at L5 around levels. Lets say you are staff somewhere and come as sr software ie L5 at G not a deal breaker and also wont slow your career. Enough complexity you will get to work on. Secondly your downlevel definitely shld come with sizeable TC increase. Getting downlevel from L4/SDE2 to L3 makes no sense especially with 3-4 yoe and similarly a 6-8 yoe person shld not sell short to L4. Because A. Difficult for pay increases and B. Even if there is a slight bump you are giving up on real growth and type of complexity and challenge. L5 onwards they dont even have salary caps so its okay. Take it if money is nicely more. Use the downlevel to justify getting paid even more.
What is the internal procedure for L6 promotion? Any specific guidance to prep for it ?
It's not a down-level, L5 at GOOG is equivalent to L6 at AMZN (and it seems the TC will be consistent also). L6 promotion is very hard. Getting in as L6 is also very hard (though probably easier than actually doing the promo). Most teams will probably not be willing to accept you as L6 at team match phase unless you are really really really good both on paper and in your team match calls. Hiring an external L6 is a huge risk.
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