Google reject after HC

Oath vguqa
Nov 11, 2019 65 Comments

So a couple of weeks ago recruiter told me that onsite interview feedback was good for an L4 and he was going to move forward to HC. However, today the recruiter called and said HC didn't feel like moving forward because I required too "many hints during interviews".

It certainly wasn't true. I did require maybe one or two, but certainly not too many.

At this point i know i should just move on. In fact I'd originally accepted the reject (because i know my luck sucks) until recruiter wanted to go to the HC as he was pretty confident, it will go through for L4.

Is it pretty common that people get rejects after HC? And why is there such a difference between recruiter opinion and HC opinion?

(It just sucks. More importantly, I feel like my luck just sucks. Pointless rollercoaster ride since the interview. I mean this was the best I could do. Maybe Google is not my cup of tea. 😭I don't think I'll ever interview at Google anymore.)

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  • New / Eng
    AmazonEng

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    Don’t be discouraged. You made it to HC, just tough luck. Apply next time.
    Nov 11, 2019 5
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Yeah. This was second time. Idk going through the process again at Google feels too much. I want to move on with life and current company. Not that I don't want to put in effort, but I'd prefer putting effort into the job.
      Nov 11, 2019
    • New / Eng
      AmazonEng

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      Remember TechLead (Patrick Shyu) went through 4 Google interviews to finally joining Google, then FB. Then fired from FB but that’s another story for another day.
      Nov 11, 2019
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Yes. That's true. Thanks for uplifting words.
      Nov 11, 2019
    • New / Eng
      AmazonEng

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      Respect the TechLead. Respect yourself.
      Nov 11, 2019
    • New / Eng
      AmazonEng

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      Edited* typo
      Nov 11, 2019
  • New / Eng
    AmazonEng

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    We will always struggle. It’s the choice to keep fighting that makes us who we are.
    Nov 11, 2019 1
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Yes. That's what I hope to do starting tomorrow morning. Rinse and repeat.
      Nov 11, 2019
  • Google or14j
    I got after 3 tries over 5 years. And dude you have no idea about my luck.
    Nov 11, 2019 4
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Happy for you. 👍🏻
      Nov 11, 2019
    • Google cvGt51
      Is there a limit on the # of times you can apply? Asking for a friend who has interviewed 3 times over the past 5 years and is planning on interview for the 4th time in Feb 2020.
      Nov 12, 2019
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      I don't think there's any limit.
      Nov 12, 2019
    • New / Eng vuSa81
      Oh, so is "Google only interviews twice in total" a Toto Bullshit?
      Nov 13, 2019
  • Uber 󠀠
    It’s a random process, like most interviews. You just need to prep and give it your best shot, which sounds like what you did. It’s not much better than plenty of other tech firms and is not filled up with just brilliant people. Deflate your expectations a bit to treat it just like another big company and it may help you drop some anxiety out of the process as well.
    Nov 11, 2019 2
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Yes. I guess you're spot on. I myself made it big over time, after learning from the recruiter that it was good feedback and expected a better outcome.
      Nov 11, 2019
    • New / Eng
      AmazonEng

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      Ask Googlers. They would agree if you put all Googlers back to the interview process it would be mostly 50/50 chance of them joining.

      Stochastic and luck.
      Nov 11, 2019
  • Twitch yikesman
    There's a lot more to life than a Google interview. It's okay to be frustrated. Just don't pin your whole value on it.
    Nov 11, 2019 1
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      👍🏻
      Nov 11, 2019
  • NetApp 2+2is3
    Last year i interviewed with google and they rejected me despite solving all algorithm probelms(not just did i solve, but exceeded expectations in all coding rounds) i could realize by seeing faces of interviewers.

    I am not self bragging, also wanted to clarify that questions were not that tough too.

    I did perform below avg. in domain specific round and reason for that was, i was never informed of this round from before.

    I was expecting rejection because of domain round but biggest surprise i recieved when recruiter informed me thatbi was rejected because of data structures and algorithms.

    Hands down to google hiring process.

    They are spoiled in this area for sure.
    Nov 12, 2019 1
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Exactly. I was expecting feedback for a different reason, at least not for coding/algorithm part.
      Nov 12, 2019
  • Microsoft DedCntr
    Google isn't what it used to be anymore. Google isn't the end of the world.
    Nov 11, 2019 1
    • Google Mauv02
      OK Microsoft.
      Nov 12, 2019
  • Google quya
    I feel good engineer will have a right sense how they did in the interview most of the time. I interviewed at G, F, L and M 6 times in total and failed once. Every time I knew how I performed right after the interview.
    Nov 12, 2019 2
    • Oath vguqa
      OP
      Well... I'd not completely agree to it. While you can know how you performed, you never know how was it perceived by the interviewers. So at least for me, it's just so difficult to predict the outcome.
      Nov 13, 2019
    • Google quya
      I feel that means you don't really know how you performed.
      Nov 13, 2019
  • Google NSvj37
    Yes, getting rejected by the hiring committee (HC) is common - it's actually the default. My guess is it's at least 75%. IME, ~50% of onsite candidates don't even make it to HC. In general, at least for my team, at least 95% of interviewees are rejected after the onsite.

    Recruiter opinion does not matter. The recruiter reviews the interview feedback, specifically the grades, and then decides whether or not to submit the candidate to the HC, based on a best guess, and as shown it's only ~25% accurate.

    Take the feedback seriously and try to learn from it. Definitely don't complain. A lot of it is luck as well, especially the temperament and expectations of the interviewer.
    Nov 11, 2019 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      oneleg

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      What feedback? :) the lesson, as always is to practice more leetcode
      Nov 12, 2019
    • Ipreo qaIG18
      Not being facetious...what separates those who get hired from those who don't? For example how/why did you stand out? 95percent seems really high and frankly like you guys are wasting a lot of people's time unless you don't interview many people
      Nov 12, 2019
  • Google gaoi
    Most recruiters know little about tech details. Don't take it too serious when they say it's good. It's quite common to be rejected by HC. Move on.
    Nov 11, 2019 0

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