Google vs FB offers

Toptal
yellowtale

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yellowtale
Jun 4, 2021 44 Comments

Google L5: 200/400/15%, vesting 33/33/22/12, 30k sign-on, rumour says refresher is 90~180
FB E5: 200/500/15%, vesting evenly, 50k sign-on, rumour says refresher is 140~280

Looks like first 2 years is gonna be in the same ballpark (around 400), and assuming hitting EE consistently (doing well, but not well enough for promo), G's comp drops linearly in year 3~5 to around 350. While FB has built-in comp bump in year 3/4 pushing it upwards to 500 before dropping to 400 in year 5.

It seems the philosophy of G is to up or out in 3 years, and FB has golden handcuff for year 3/4, given the reputation of G having better WLB and FB pushing people harder, this is a very interesting counter balance to their cultures. What do you think? Which offer would you take?

Update: G upped equity to 480, thanks to all the suggestions in the thread. I love the blind community!

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  • Google
    Yluz11

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    Yluz11
    Offer is almost similar, considering the front loaded vesting with Google. Median refresher in both companies are about the same 130~140k. However, Facebook has higher multipliers for top performers, so if you have ambitions for L6 promo, you’ll get paid better on your path there with FB. Although if you have L6 ambitions, wlb won’t be too great in either companies, but fb is arguably still worse. One more thing to consider, if you join Google around this time of the year, you won’t see refreshers until the end of next year. In Fb, there’ll be some prorated refreshers for the rest of the year.
    Jun 4, 2021 4
    • Google / Eng
      Qlan

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      Qlan
      Refreshers are not at all similar at facebook and Google. For L5/E5 meets expectations, you’ll get 105k at Google and 138k at facebook (last year’s numbers). For exceeds, 131k at Google, 172k at facebook. Strongly exceeds, 147k at Google, 276k at facebook.
      Jun 4, 2021
    • Google
      Yluz11

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      Yluz11
      CME at google and MA at Fb is not on the same curve. That’s why I said median. 50 percentile is EE at google, and MA at Fb.
      Jun 4, 2021
  • Apple
    alexmurphy

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    alexmurphy
    You are expected to get to L6 at google? L5 is not terminal?
    Jun 4, 2021 7
  • Amazon
    OcCY62

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    OcCY62
    Did you compete using fb offer with google?
    Jun 4, 2021 5
  • LogMeIn / Eng
    tequila 🍷

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    tequila 🍷
    I am surprised poll results are so skewed towards Google despite lowball. This just confirms for me Blinders only want 3 things - LC, TC and Google
    Jun 4, 2021 3
  • TI
    TGTPM

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    TGTPM
    Is G’s vesting schedule consistent across roles and levels? What is the typically vesting schedule?
    Jun 4, 2021 9
    • Google / Eng
      Qlan

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      Qlan
      Based on Google internal docs that describe equity for new hires and viewable by all Googlers. All L1-9 new hires offers on or after May 17 will have this schedule.
      Jun 4, 2021
    • Amazon
      anhdj3sn6

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      anhdj3sn6
      Interesting, I got my initial offer extended before to have missed this downgraded vesting schedule. Thanks
      Jun 5, 2021