Google gave low balled and low level L3 offer. I'm still trying to negotiate with Google. Microsoft has given final offer. I have 5 YOE as SWE. Need help to decide on walk away offer for Google. I feel Google's offer is very low for bay area. Google L3 in Bay area TC 177K Base 130K Stock 190K Sign on 35K Microsoft SDE 2 in Redmond TC 173K Base 138K Stock 140K Sign on 45K
What about Google signon? Thats a good offer for L3 but for 5 YOE you should be aiming for L4. Having said that, getting into G is tough when compared to Msft. Choose between the brand and the level. Tough decision
FWIW, looks like Google considers you a high L3 (SDE 1 essentially) and MSFT considers you a low SDE 2. So to get more from Google after joining, you need a promotion. To get more from msft, you merely need to perform well.
How is G offer $177k? It is close to $190k including 10% bonus.
Bonus target is actually 15% so it's a bit over 190
Definitely microsoft. 173k goes a lot further in redmond/seattle than 177k in the bay area
Microsoft growth is a LOT slower than google.
Growth as a company? Cause if so, Microsoft has been killing it lately. Their valuation is sky high
Stay the f*** away from Microsoft. The refreshers are pathetic
Long term comp better at Google, once msft has you raises / stock refreshers are slim
How much are google stock refreshers?
Promo is usually a lot easier at Microsoft. Do you prefer Windows programming or Unix? What are the teams like? Life is more than TC.
As I'm already at high side of L3, would it be easier to get L4 promotion in 1 year? I'm also thinking to ask for Google Seattle location as current offer is low for bay area. Google has not offered team yet. I would prefer unix than windows
You almost certainly won’t get L4 in a year, in fact you’ll get no refreshers first year. Depending on your performance, you can reasonably expect to get from L3 to L4 in 2-4 years.
TC for the MSFT offer seems more like $185-190k to me, ignoring the signing bonus. Stock is $35k/ year plus 10% target bonus and around $11k annual refreshers
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Keep on interviewing, u can do better. Choose MSFT offer if u have to choose one.