I work in a department at Apple that's loaded with ex-Googlers. It's like 50% ex-Googlers. They literally make me want to go back to Amazon because they are so insufferable. I'm going to vent; your entertainment tonight is all the Googlers rushing to accuse me of "sour grapes" or "horniness for google" as a means to cope with, excuse, and draw attention away from their own shitty mannerisms. (Not to say that I'm any gem myself, of course...) Problem 1: Their ego is obviously MASSIVE. You can literally see this smugness "glow" to the ex-Googlers from just how massive their ego is. Problem 2: There's a tangible in-group bias too. You literally crack their coding interviews one single time and spend a couple months coasting at their company, and you're part of the club. Doesn't matter if you were L4, or L7, or even L3. If you got in, you're part of the club. And, you get a special status in their book as being a club member, which makes your opinions and shitposts all the more fascinating to the other members of their club. You are now a gogglehead, or whatever. Problem 3: The religion of Jeff Dean. Now, of course with Google *obviously* having the best engineers (Jane Street, anyone?), that would mean that Google's best engineer is obviosuly the best engineer of all time, right? This is where Jeff Dean comes in. The goggleheads bespeak of him as some kind of programming god figure. If you're not aware, they write jokes about him in the style of Chuck Norris jokes. It's just as cringe as you'd imagine. My impression is that their belief is career growth in system design occurs via reading of the Holy Whitepapers of Jeff Dean, and re-creating the sacred architectures inscribed upon them in some kind of cargo cult worship manner. Problem 4: When I have an idea, one of the first things that usually comes to my mind is "has somebody else already thought of this?" However, this is not the case with goggleheads. Everything done by Google is the most correct way to do it and the way that Google did it is inherently special in some way and couldn't have possibly been thought of before, nor could a non-Googler have ever come up with such a Highly Innovative™️ idea. Via acquiring the awesome status of being a Google Engineer, every thought that you have ever had is unique and special, having occured in not a single human mind before, ever. This is evident in (their lord and savior) Jeff Dean's MapReduce whitepaper. It's evident throughout their culture of re-inventing the wheel. (Thus, 12 different internal chat applications.) It's also evident in the work of their foot soldiers: There's a gogglehead on my team. In all his Jeff Dean horniness and yearning for Google tools, he had this idea to re-invent Dremel or BigQuery on AWS infra. Again, when I have an idea, one of the first things that usually comes to my mind is "has somebody else already thought of this?" This is particularly the case with AWS services--where the number one rule of their product strategy is "What are our customers doing with our services?... OMG, that's a great idea! Let's do that too and roll it as a SaaS!": OpenSearch (hosted elasticsearch), EKS (hosted kubernetes), MSK (hosted Kafka, depite having kinesis), and even RedShift (hosted ParAccel). So, lo and behold, Amazon Athena. Problem 5: If working at Goggle is so fucking great, then why do they leave? Perhaps it’s because they find each other to be insufferable as well 🤔 Problem 6: Googlers actually cannot read. That’s right; they are actually 100% illiterate! You’ll notice this in their comments and replies because they never seem to have read a single fucking word that you said prior to typing out their own response. You might be wondering, “That’s absurd! How in the hell could anyone possibly be holding down a software job while not even being able to read?”—Yup. I’m just as surprised and confused as you are, but it’s simply what I’ve observed. I’m pretty confident that not even a single gogglewogglehead has ever read a single word in their entire life. Okay, I think I'm done ranting now. Props for anybody that read all this. Blind tax: 340k EDIT: decided to make a quick edit of the official logo of the goggleheads that might rush to defend their honor in the comments of this post EDIT2: Making this a poll as per suggestion in the comments: “What company do most insufferable people come from?” EDIT3: QUICK REMINDER TO SPAM THE TEAMBLIND SUPPORT EMAIL WITH SHOCK IMAGES IF YOU EVER GET BANNED
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Additionally most of them are slow coders. They can talk for hours about hypothetical scenarios and micro optimization but are terrible at implementation. Source: experience working with a couple of them at Opendoor.
Your experience working with 2 of them sounds like really great data to make claims about most of them!
My friends / acquaintances that work there can’t stop talking about Google. Anytime we grab dinner, it’s like I’m hanging out with a Google spokesperson, a representative of the company that replaced my friend. Sure, it’s interesting to hear about the internal tooling, but I mean, come on, talk about something else.
because everything that google does or thinks of is unique and somehow extra special, right? 🙄
Yes, that is the premise of all of it.
I’ve noticed a similar trend from some of those that went to MIT
Yes, Problem #2 also applies to people who worked at Goldman Sachs. I imagine that ex-GS Google employees really take it to the next level.
It’s ok now we all make the same money regardless of the school we went to be it MIT or San Jose State like many Apple employees.
OP is the one with the ego problem
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Lol not reading that wall of text
Google coasters often are not that good besides knowing how to leetcode obviously. They are smart, high IQ but put in a place that you can just chill and coast to get by. Whereas Amazonian average have a slightly lower IQ than Googler and most of them need to grind and bear pressure throughout their careers and try to jump because of🍌. After 2-3 years you will notice that Amazonians are average much better than Googlers because of it. Yeah but those Googlers who don’t coast and grind through obviously are top notch of the top notch but rare though
I'd argue most googlers are not high IQ peeps. Sure if you're talking about Petr Mitrichev / Jeff Dean , Russ Cox but most googlers aren't
Most of my Googler friends have high IQ from my perspective. Doesn’t mean their abilities match their IQ though
Ok It's the weekend, go have fun
Kinda hard when I know I have to deal with a bunch of gogglers like you on monday 🙄
I added problem #5 just for you, btw, sweetie 😉