UPDATE: Guys I would like to apologize for the misinformation I provided yesterday. It was not intentional, the data (link provided below) is there referred to as H1b program data and description field for Case Status is given as "Status associated with the last significant event or decision. Valid values include “Certified,” “Certified-Withdrawn,” Denied,” and “Withdrawn”." Those statuses and cases I checked also synced with H1b websites such as : -https://h1bdata.info So I presumed that the dataset case statuses are for H1b. Based on the numerous feedback I received in the comments, I am convinced that this is only for the LCA stage of H1b process, not the final H1b. I contacted USCIS for the dataset, if they provide one, I will create another detailed post. (I have been researching since yesterday to find the dataset). So far I only found statistics by top 30 employers in the US which I will post in another thread. --------------------------- Hi Guys, I have been reading lots of posts recommending not to join on receipt. BAL lawyers (for Google) are giving me a 6-10 month timeline for approval. They don't expect another USCIS announcement for PP soon (by soon I mean ~2-3 weeks, this is the difference between 1st announcement on Jan 25 and 2nd on Feb 15) for apps filed after Dec 21st. They speculate that USCIS to wait until after cap season to fully reinstall PP but again no guarantee. So the approval process is really too long. So, I downloaded the public data from https://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm I pulled some helpful statistics for those who are considering to join on the receipt. [Please don't be confused by USCIS's quarterly report (attached, that 27% denied category includes withdrawals), actual denial rate is much much lower] For an H1b visa transfer (not new or amendment), for a full-time role, for an employer headquartered in the US (so excluding some of these Indian Consulting Firms), the odds of denial and sample size in 2018: - Total: 1.17% - 110,863 - Facebook: 0.67% - 1,039 - Apple: 0.72% - 975 - Amazon: 0.47%- 1,905 - Netflix: 0% - 141 - Google: 0.77% - 1,431 - Microsoft: 0% - 1,287 - Airbnb: 0% - 109 - Uber: 0% - 353 - Lyft: 0.58% - 171 - Oracle: 0.47% - 632 - LinkedIn: 0.34% - 298 - Square: 0% - 46 - Stripe: 0% - 21 - Vmware: 0% - 136 - Doordash: 0% - 29 - Salesforce: 1.42% - 353 - Postmates: 0% - 13 - Job Title "software engineer": 0.85% - 14,999 - Job Title "engineering manager": 2.23% - 224 - Job Title "analyst": 1.03% - 14,845 - Job Title "product manager": 1.83% - 984 - Job Title "program manager": 1.20% - 832 - Job Title "consultant": 0.75% - 9,911 - Job Title "developer": 0.92% - 17,188 - Job Title "data scientist": 0.90% - 781 Note: Job title rates are not based on exact match, if the title contains those strings, it 'll be counted (e.g software engineer, logistics will be counted). I hope this info helps for those who are still looking for a way out :) PM me for the code for those who want to do their own ad-hoc analysis.
Very good analysis sir. I think all said, for legit jobs in respectable companies, the process may be slow but still not bad. The ones feeling heat are the bodyshop companies.
Thanks for the hard work you did but honestly this is not accurate based on how you rationalize the data. This is very skewed representation.
Sure, I don't claim to be expert in this field but I welcome any improvement/suggestions. What do you think is skewed and how can I reduce that bias?
Job Title convergence/mapping, withdrawal share assumptions for starters...
So no one is denied H1 while transferring to Netflix?
That is correct, same with Microsoft. Netflix has 1 denial which was an amended h1b petition. Microsoft has 0 denials for all types of H1b petitions (5555 certified and 1 withdrawn)
Wait weren't there a few people from Microsoft complaining on blind being denied h1?
Why no Microsoft 😪
sorry, just added, I still don't know why Microsoft is not part of FAANG :)
Because they can't beat FANG offer
Thanks 🙏 a lot for doing the hard work and sharing the data for community. I started a thread with a question to join on receipt and find your thread/analysis very helpful. Can you share your code (if any) how you draw those metrics from data, so I can do similar stuff on my end, and have peace in my mind.
will PM you the code
The risk really comes in very specific cases. The biggest is specialty occupation which attracts an RFE if there is any discrepancy between your degree and the one listed in the job posting. If the job says CS degree and your have exactly that it's very low risk. If on the other hand you have an EE degree and are having to make a degree equivalent claim it's more risk. Non tech roles are often risky because sometimes they are fuzzy about what degree is actually required and may list a number or just say any degree, which creates problems. But if it's software developer at a well known company and you have a CS degree from a well known school you really are pretty safe.
True, outcome is definitely case by case. I was just trying to see some numbers to give me some direction.
Rfe is the problem
What do you think of my case? Bachelors in electronics - india MS in CS from USA Transferring to one of the other FAANG's current role same as new role: Sr. Software Engg Do anyone of you think I should worry?
Noone can guarantee you that you won't get a denial, especially after I saw that post about the guy who got a denial for an eng manager position (moving from FB to Uber) and he had an MS in CS from Stanford. But, the goal of this post was to show that it is not that terrible as it is thought in most Blind posts. I would still talk to your hiring manager and recruiter to see if there is a backup option in case of denial (like sending you to Canada, UK, etc while refiling/appealing) - which is what I did - still waiting for an answer. Does anyone know Google's policy on this?
thanks for the insight!
OP, you are amazing!
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Amazing! Thanks for this info deeprocker 🙌