so just some thoughts and I dont mean offense to anyone in particular. I'm entering midlevel in my career and finally realizing how many useless people HR attracts. in general, they are the ones that love gossip and exerting power, but are generally powerless when they could help do something useful. They work with legal but rarely have any professional skills other than rudimentary knowledge of government and regulations surrounding employment. The people ive known personally exemplify this. I had a random roommate once who had no degree and she'd come home and brag to everyone that she had visibility into the C-level's comp. I went to college with another girl who was dumb as a brick just added me on linkedin. looks like shes been in HR for 5 years. At work they're generally just paper pushers. i have briefly considered wanting a role like that because i think it's important work to help employees enjoy their jobs, but then i realized that's not what HR is or what they do. /rant
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HR's goal is not to help employees enjoy their jobs. HR's goal is to protect the company from its employees.
And half the time they can't even manage to do that.
The government definitely has the most worthless HR people. Every now and then you come across someone in HR who actually cares, but they don’t seem to stay long.
I truly think it depends on the company. For each HR team that I’ve worked for previously, even the one I am working on right now definitely don’t define what you are perceiving and have proven to be highly educated and smart folks who want to contribute to the companies success. HR definitely goes beyond Payroll and ER. We’re the ones who are defining the company’s culture and bringing in talent that match up to the company’s vision. Each of my colleagues from past positions all earned their degrees in HR/Business Management and are motivated to develop change so we can mitigate gossipy and cliquey behavior in a company. It also depends on leadership. I’ve had leadership previously where they didn’t care and it reflected among everyone else on my team, and I’ve been on teams where our EVPs are powered by change and promote that positivity.
I could go on about this but you're mostly correct. Old school HR is about protecting employers, but there's always been a underlying study of human behavior in the workplace that's shaped the corporate world for over a century. Today, you'll find leaders like Lazlo Bock who have revolutionized the role of HR (or People) in an organization. Being the liason between HR and Legal is an important relationship, but HR has expanded way beyond it to include People Analytics/Operations (which comprise of new departments) and even D&I. HR is evolving to a field of understanding an organizations most important asset, Humans. From there, the focus has shifted on improving hiring practices for a more competitive landscape and a workplace environment that supports an organizations growth. Talent leaders are becoming less administrative and moreso as business partners as the days pass, and we'll continue to see their role evolve.
Color me shocked that a top tier company like Tyler Technology has low talent HR department and employees who dont understand what HR does!
@fb this is mostly coming from my recent experience at FAANG. I’ve never been happier at work than I am at this company.
Ah gotcha, well your post doesn’t have much substance, so it’s hard to tell if you have an understanding of their function. Sounds more like you have a personal axe to grind
It is personal, what’s your point?
Avoid hr, procurement, accounting
Did you fail an interview to join an HR role?
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Try People Analytics, it is a newer function within HR that challenges long established norms with data and science, and focuses on work that will have a measurable business impact.
Is it? I thought that was just HR rebranded and attempting to quantify human output, which can lead to even more demoralization at work.
Some of the larger tech companies have decent people analytics groups. Read “Work Rules” by Lazlo Bock