https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/harvard-admissions-asian-american/index.html Ah yes, it’s because Asians have worse personalities. Is this infuriating to everyone or just Asian-Americans?
Glad I didn’t go there.
Curious if African Americans are 95% why are they still such a small percentage at Harvard? Not disagreeing with any of the points of discrimination against Asians at Harvard.
Very simple if you apply logic
Fuck affirmative action
This has morphed far beyond what Kennedy originally intended when affirmative action simply meant “spend the effort to find qualified people from underrepresented groups”
The day will come when Asian American wall street banker's kid prefers to go to Tsinghua University instead. Harvard can keep their student body diverse af.
Harvard is just an old boy club who pays scholarship to some smart kids so the old boys kids look good. You are surprised that you are not treated fairly?
It’s true though you Asians don’t even smile unless you’re American born. It’s a cultural thing I guess
Color, race and language differences have nothing to do with intelligence and how far someone will go professionally. It’s a very narrow way of thinking. I know Asians who kick ass at work and some of the best brains in the industry. And they get paid much handsomely than an average westerner. And I also know some westerners who are really smart in what they do. At the end of the day, your intellectual mindset, hard work and persistence matters. Harvard, Stanford and other highly prestigious institutions should set the right example and follow high ideals in all their dealings.
There are different types of intelligence. Asians tend to overemphasize certain narrow types. Harvard chooses to include other things in the mix of what they think is important. All this complaining would make one think Harvard is full of black student when it clearly is not.
How can you generalize that Asians lack ‘other things’? Can you elaborate on what those other things are.
Harvard cares about more than just SAT scores because they want people who will be successful and donate money. Someone might have strong leadership qualities and a high SAT score and be more attractive that a student with even higher SAT score but whose leadership qualities aren't as strong. Since many Asians make it all about the score, they sometimes fall short in these other areas that Harvard believes is important. Today, the University of Chicago decided that SAT and ACT scores will not longer be required for US applicants. I expect there will be more colleges deciding to do the same because they don't want to accept 1600 SAT robots.
The value of a degree (past and present) just declined substantially at the Univ of Chicago. Machines do prefer to be coded by 1600 SAT robots over someone who received a 1150 (that’s the differential between the avg Asian and African American accepted at Harvard)
There is a reason why high scores have high importance in the east. Foreign students from Asia come from very densely populated developing countries plus the education system is very different from the west and what it means is, they have to fight harder and score higher because for say, 100 positions in a company, there’s over 100000 applicants and because of the education system, the higher the score, better their chances are. In contrast, west has fewer students and more number of reputed universities and colleges and the education system is about practical knowledge than theoretical. So, when these students apply in western universities, they are coming with the old mindset which takes time to change. However, over time they adjust to it and are able to change their mindset and approach to education. Since, these Universities are well known to be global and encourage diversity, they should be more accommodating to these students and not judge them so quickly. Because if you look from a different perspective, these students are also entrepreneurial, determined and courageous because they are not afraid to try and even after their limitations, they are ready to give it a shot, they learn foreign languages (not every country speaks English) and communicate, live and work in a foreign country. How many westerns send their kids to colleges in Asian countries? Not even 1/100th the amount of students that come to US alone. Just think about it. I don’t disagree with you about the whole score thing, but you should also try to understand why it is the way it is. Is it fair for these universities to discriminate?
I don't get your argument. Asian students don't bother to research Harvard and understand that Harvard cares about more than just SAT and therefore it's unfair that some of these Asian students are not accepted. Somehow this is Harvard discriminating against them? But I thought they were so incredibly smart? They didn't bother doing research?
Yes, Harvard cares about skin color also. Tough to change that one even if you’ve researched it well.
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The whole world is tilted towards outgoing extroverts. The PIE model (look it up) even shows that your performance is only 10% of your expected success. Exposure and image combine for 90% of your outcome. At illumina they actually instruct this model of success as the preferred culture in their “career development” videos.
Except for all of East Asia.
Hahaha true. I shouldn’t have said “the whole world.” If it’s not clear from my original post, this PIE crap is a bunch of bullshit designed so that talentless uncreative and useless eaters get to take over and be in charge of things they know jack shit about.