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Both Seattle. FB ML E5: 205/700/100 TC each year including target refreshers and bonus: 510, 443, 475, 508 OCI ML IC5: 245/930/40 TC each year (no bonus or refresher standard): 517, 477, 477, 477 OCI is slightly more in the first three years, but there is the annual vesting cliff each year, which is riskier than FBs quarterly vesting. Also, more stock exposure since the lack of refreshers mean I am locking in todays price for four years. OCI is a higher level and might be a faster growth path in general. It is building out a new team/org. Getting promo to E6 at FB seems years off and only if I find a project at the right scope. However, FB has tons of problems and transferring teams sounds easy. Also, much better benefits. Any advice? Pick one or post comment. Thanks!

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Apple ā›·ļø Feb 5, 2020

How was the FB ML interview for E5?

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Fine?

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nubidubidu Feb 5, 2020

Come on man, tell us overpaid regular software engineers what they measure an overpaid ML engineer on.

Amazon sadnessov Feb 5, 2020

This is a no brainer. Fb any day

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Why?

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nubidubidu Feb 5, 2020

No one gives a dang about Oracle. (except apparently that they pay so well) Every human worldwide who has used the internet knows about Facebook. Millions of people thinks Facebook *is* the internet.

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Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Recruiter said this was top. Whatā€™s your datapoint?

Facebook easzss Feb 5, 2020

Airbnb, stop making up shit

Oracle zumzum! Feb 5, 2020

In OCI. Just pick FB offer and run. In OCI you canā€™t get promoted to IC6. So your promotion point is not worth it. I would say you will have better impact at FB.

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

But IC5 band extends much higher than FBā€™s E5

Oracle zumzum! Feb 5, 2020

Agree, but itā€™s worthless.

Zulily setgo Feb 5, 2020

How was your FB ML interview? Easy/Medium/Hard problems? Whatā€™s the mix looked like?

Roku Roku-250 Feb 5, 2020

Yoe?

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

See above

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mnopa36 Feb 6, 2020

I don't see Yoe

Google forte125 Feb 5, 2020

Tell OCI about your FB offer and then renegotiate FB with that new offer

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Do you think FB has room to move? OCI is already higher and they didnā€™t match.

Affirm ramenlover Feb 5, 2020

What language did FB use in your emails? I think you can still negotiate if you frame it the right way, like you're really excited to work at FB but the competing offer is making it difficult, what can they do to help etc

Google ADuR84 Feb 5, 2020

Yoe?

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

8. 5 as an SDE

Microsoft nmlogxsshx Feb 6, 2020

All at Amazon?

Facebook easzss Feb 5, 2020

The fact that you're trying to convince yourself to go to OCI makes me question if you even have a E5 offer. OCI just had layoffs - wouldn't go there with a huge pay bump

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Haha yes I have the offer. Just struggle taking something that is so lateral in scope.

Facebook easzss Feb 5, 2020

I mean, I guess you should go to OCI then. I was offered 100k+ in TC difference by OCI and didn't think twice about declining. They know they have to offer a lot more.

Amazon sadnessov Feb 5, 2020

OP it seems you have already made up your mind to join OCI and do not care about what people are saying anyway. Wish you the best of luck, and hope you do not regret that move

Amazon plrfgtkmq OP Feb 5, 2020

Sorry, I donā€™t mean to come across as that. If people were leaning towards OCI I would be taking the other side to ensure a balanced argument is made and not just bias. Iā€™m pretty shocked how one sided this is.

Facebook easzss Feb 5, 2020

In the last 5 years, Oracle's stock has barely gone up 25%. And they just had layoffs. Please go to OCI. Most if not all people with an actual FB offer would be seriously entertaining this. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/25/oracle_headcount_cut/