Help! Which should I join?

Bidgely kcap
Dec 7, 2019 32 Comments

I have 3 offers (I work in machine learning algo design as a principal DS in a startup, 7 years exp + PhD)

Amazon L5 - 300k TC (they're low balling - should ideally give L6, they came up with a story that they need external L6 hire to be better than 50% of all L6 in amazon)

Intuit staff data scientist - 303k TC + 25k joining bonus (they will increase later to 340-345k TC for the first year)

Akamai principal data scientist - $350k TC

I don't have a good brand name in my resume, so I need brand name but Amazon is low balling on the position. Also, don't want to work crazy 70-80 hours a week.

YOE - 7 years
Current - 200k TC + stock options

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  • Amazon udee4c
    "to be better than 50% of all L6 in amazon"

    That's not a story. The candidate is supposed to raise the bar for a job family. The interviewers didn't find you to be qualified for L6 based on your interview performance and background

    Side note: if you have work in DS then you should know that the tiny sample of people who complain about WLB at Amazon does not represent the majority of the company. I haven't met anyone in my few months here who works more than 40 hours a week
    Dec 7, 2019 9
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      The question is not what Amazon should offer. Read it again, Amazon fanboy! The question is which should I join with what I have.

      If you have any sensible advice, please offer otherwise stop trolling.
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Glassdoor dqq
      Nice try. Every single person I ever met from Amazon said it was a sweatshop and hated that place.
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      Interestingly, one interviewer himself said that I work 70-80 hours a week some weeks, and you should definitely ask that question to every interviewer 😂😂😂
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Glassdoor dqq
      I think udee4c is Jeff Bezos posing as a software engineer
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Amazon udee4c
      Big company, experiences vary. Mine is that myself and everyone around work <40
      Dec 8, 2019
  • Amazon Ah Dang
    As additional info, 7 YOE is respectable, but is multiple years below what Amazon brings in as L6, typically. Also, most companies don’t reject you after you ace their interviews.

    I don’t know which you should join, but I do think you should avoid joining Amazon. I’ve been around for a while, and your over confidence/lack of humility will get you in to trouble here.

    Call me a troll if you like, or take the friendly advice, or both. If you do decide on Amazon, check the ego at the door and you’ll have a brighter future ahead.

    Good luck!
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Google Dr. Seuss
    Why did you not consider other "brand name" like G, Netflix msft, fb, Apple?
    Dec 7, 2019 6
    • Glassdoor dqq
      "Got rejected after acing their interview" perhaps they didn't like your personality ?! 😄
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      Yea I guess 😂
      Dec 7, 2019
    • VMware hitref
      Lol at ‘after acing their interviews’. Any ideas on why they rejected in that case?
      Dec 8, 2019
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      No idea. Even my Facebook friends said it's weird why they rejected. They might have found the candidate.
      Dec 8, 2019
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      Year end might also be a factor.. not the best time to interview.
      Dec 8, 2019
  • Expedia Group MarkOBitch
    Get amazon to match, then go there. The challenges at Amazon are way more interesting
    Dec 7, 2019 1
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      Amazon won't match. It's their best offer because they aren't offering L6.
      Dec 7, 2019
  • Bidgely kcap
    OP
    Yeah. It's mainly between Intuit and akamai. Amazon is not even worth considering at the level L5. Even my juniors are at L6 in Seattle and other areas. The problems will be great there but it makes no sense to downgrade the level to do quality work.
    Dec 8, 2019 4
  • Zillow Group ohen
    I’ll say take Akamai and try FAANG in another 6 months if you are not happy.
    Dec 7, 2019 2
    • Bidgely kcap
      OP
      Thanks.. is akamai principal DS and Intuit staff comparable? Intuit's staff is at Google's L5-L6 as per levels.fyi. Akamai has no such comparison available.
      Dec 8, 2019
    • Zillow Group ohen
      Since you are thinking about moving soon anyway, title and money matters more. I doubt the industry see Intuit and Akamai differently when it comes to the prestige.
      Dec 8, 2019
  • VMware JLKT52
    OP, I think the last paragraph in your original post already helped you ruled out Amazon: they don't appreciate you at the level you want, and you don't want the work hours they need.
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Salesforce curious03
    Is Amazon a good brand on resume ?
    I thought Amazon doesn't count under good brands
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Intuit integrity?
    Don’t count on any future promised compensation from intuit 😅
    Dec 12, 2019 0
  • Twilio / Data 🦄💩⚰️
    Intuit!
    Dec 10, 2019 0

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