Help with Google L4 offer

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eSyL77

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eSyL77
Apr 15 30 Comments

Two questions up front:
- is 270k avg/4yrs for L4 (HCOL but not Bay Area) low,mid,high?
- how likely would Meta/Amazon etc be able to do better at E4/SDE2 range? I could maybe land an E5/SDE3, but definitely less likely

Context:
I got an L4 offer from Google. Because I had other deadlines, I didn't bother to see what their initial offer was but just gave them my best counter immediately (400k Coinbase L5)

They came back with 275k avg over 4 years. Looking on levels.fyi this looks like the median offer anyway? My recruiter was disappointed too. He said the reason they didn't match supposedly was because of the level difference

I'm going to turn the offer down, but I'm thinking about circling back within the year. I'm curious first off how much lower they'll offer me if I come back without any competing offers. Second, I'm wondering which companies I could interview with to get a better competing offer?

Current TC: 210
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  • My initial G L4 for NYC was 295k average. Shared my 395k Snap L4 offer and waiting to hear back. 4 yoe. Imo you got lowballed hard
    Apr 15 11
  • Google / Eng
    HardCider

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    HardCider
    275k seems low as I have multiple data points of it going over 300k before including refreshers.
    Apr 15 6
    • New
      eSyL77

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      eSyL77
      OP
      No budge right now, think I’m gonna try to go get a good offer from somewhere else and bring it back. My recruiter said G is pretty good about matching Meta 1:1
      Apr 15
    • Google / Eng
      HardCider

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      HardCider
      I see - a couple of options:

      1. BATNA: tell them how excited you are at Google that you're even considering a downlevel. Tell me the benefits of Coinbase and why Web3/Crypto is exciting, but you still prefer Google and this is the only thing stopping you.

      2. Think of your own magic number. Do not share it with the recruiter. For what number, would you immediately sign on the spot?
      Apr 15
  • Amazon
    $milkshake

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    $milkshake
    ^ it can go up to 400k actually. And Amazon can beat any other FAANG, since they are hiring desperately.
    Apr 15 4
  • Google
    ɘlϱooӘ

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    ɘlϱooӘ
    5 yoe L4 seems about right at Google. Why do you think you deserve L5?
    Apr 15 2
    • New
      eSyL77

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      eSyL77
      OP
      i didn't say that tho lol. talking about getting L5 elsewhere for competing offer. got mix of L4 and L5 offers from the places I interviewed, but didn't interview with either FB or Amazon this time

      just trying to plump up the L4 offer from G as much as possible
      Apr 15
    • Google
      ɘlϱooӘ

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      ɘlϱooӘ
      That's the right way, with competing L5 offers you should be able to get G L4 HCOL offer to go upwards of 400k equity.

      I am not sure of should be in MCOL or LCOL in US, but you could discount 10 to 15% for COL differences
      Apr 15
  • Amazon
    Volteri

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    Volteri
    For Hcol non bay area, Amazon L5 (equivalent of G L4) will get you anywhere between 300-350 based on your negotiation.
    Apr 15 0