Here you go ? Is H1b/h4/l1 visa good or bad for America

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badcoder

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badcoder
May 2, 2018 50 Comments

I want to hear both sides.

Both sides are not happy with current high skill visa program H1B ?
What are your suggestions?

Should non engineers like product managers / QA qualify for program?

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  • Amazon
    jfr83g

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    jfr83g
    He is the fix: make h1b a non immigrant visa with no chance to apply greencard and deny any extension beyond six years.

    Make it clear it's not an immigrant visa it's a temporary worker visa.

    People who want a greencard can apply for one directly from their home country via consular processing. Then their lives will not be on hold, since they can work, vote, go to school, etc, in their home country.

    Too many people think it is step one in the greencard process but it was never intended to be that, then complain they their lives are on hold due to the confusion about what their visa is for. End the confusion. Deny GC from h1b.
    May 2, 2018 8
    • Amazon
      fty5ef

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      fty5ef
      @ETG you do not have to be working for a company in the US to apply for an EB green card. You can indeed apply from outside the US and in fact that is meant to be the normal way to apply. As Lc said it's based on an offer of employment, your current employment is totally irrelevant to you greencard application. It is based on your i140 which is effectively a job offer.

      Google "consular processing" if you want to learn more about it.

      The H1b route is what almost all companies do because they can, but that's not what H1b was intended to be used for, and it should be stopped.

      People going around from one company to another on the basis of an old job offer (i140) they actually have no intention of ever accepting is a legal hack and a total abuse of the system.

      @Lc it's only a "huge risk" if companies go about filling applications for random people they barely know. The employment greencard system expects employers to have done that due diligence on the candidate. The reason they don't do that today is that they instead abuse the h1b program to try people out, or in the case of Indians, as a pseudo green card via the i140 portability hack.
      May 3, 2018
    • Google
      Lcforlife

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      Lcforlife
      Well as a person who interviewed people, it’s hard to evaluate someone without actually working with them. So perhaps a new visa category would solve it? But in general I agree.
      May 3, 2018
  • Visa
    shaolin

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    shaolin
    I have nothing to contribute to this discussion but I can type tree fiddy in 70 languages. Thanks to Google Translate.
    May 2, 2018 1
  • Apple / Eng
    SelfDeport

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    Google
    SelfDeport
    The H-1B system is bad, because it forces people to live un-free lives for years in an otherwise free country, and be under total control of their employer.

    If someone is smart and will contribute, give them permanent residence aka a “green card” so they can freely quit their job and start their own company if they want to.
    May 2, 2018 5
    • Intel
      MurthysLaw

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      MurthysLaw
      It hurts American works by keeping a section of the labor pool unable to easily change jobs. If companies had to seriously worry about losing their visa workers, they may have pay more than they currently do. Americans would benefit from the higher pay too.
      May 2, 2018
    • New
      scrum510

      New

      scrum510
      It sucks at Cisco. When I was there, contractors got paid crap, worked 16 hours, and got crap benefits. BUT , I don't feel sorry for anyone making over $75k a year. It's above the median household income.

      It's the agencies like Tata, Accenture, Infosys that take advantage.
      Just look at the pay scales on h1bdata.info and all the "consultancies" pay the worse. Most other direct hire companies take care of their H1Bs.
      May 12, 2018
  • It's great for everyone except those who are on it and would prefer it to be an immigration visa (as opposed to a non immigration visa forcing people to apply for dual intent)
    May 2, 2018 0
  • Oath / Other
    badcoder

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    badcoder
    OP
    Yes planning to run for office
    May 2, 2018 0