Feeling Stuck!! Shitty product practices!

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ARPAA

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ARPAA
May 6, 2021 8 Comments

Came to US few years ago, through inter-company transfer to build a career in product management. Realizing that in my current company the role is more about ego/stakeholders/powergames management. People would call me pretty accomplished within the company (3 promotions in 6 years, leading a product suite with highest profitability and millions of users) but I feel stuck and lost. I can’t say no to ‘business’ feature requests. Just grinding in a feature factory where PMs are to just take the blame and keep writing requirements for dev to deliver. No ownership of outcomes. Heck the outcomes are not even measured beyond macro metrics like revenue, retention etc.

Got an #amazon L7 loop rejection today. I wasn’t at the level that they were expecting. I could clearly see my lack of actual product management experience. It’s been a rough day...got an #microsoft informational round rejection too. This one felt more terrible because I felt the interviewer was quite impressed. Had a #facebook #instagram loop rejection last year.

Blind community - Do your thing. Tell me how I can get out of this? My general working hours are 10-12 hrs each day. But I am not happy with intellectual, professional and career growth. I don’t feel like I am learning anything new or making any impact. Would love to get suggestions on how to turn this around and find a role where I can learn and grow in product management role.

TC: $220K
Total YOE: 13
Indian on #h1b #productmanager

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  • Amazon
    PMatlarge

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    PMatlarge
    What gaps in your PM experience did you realize during your Amazon l7 loop?
    May 7, 2021 3
    • Amazon
      PMatlarge

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      PMatlarge
      Hmm. I’m an l6 pmt and though there may be few l7 pms who work on large scale problems and/or innovative products, most I know don’t. Scope may be large but most of the work involves incremental changes to existing solutions. The art of interviewing is about padding with enough complexity until the story reaches critical mass for wow effect. Practice!
      May 8, 2021
    • ADP
      ARPAA

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      ARPAA
      OP
      Yup, I appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
      May 8, 2021
  • GrubHub
    JRKp72

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    JRKp72
    This feeling will pass. Patiently plan your next steps. You are not alone. Many of us have felt like this / feel like this. Also, diversify the life portfolio and add other things there that make you feel good.
    May 6, 2021 0
  • Sorry to hear about this. Tough luck. Keep interviewing and you will find something better. As the above said, PM does not start and end with FAANG.
    May 6, 2021 0
  • Amazon
    ynDd33

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    ynDd33
    > Realizing that in my current company the role is more about ego/stakeholders/powergames management.

    You’d be a great fit at Amazon.

    I’d consider it bad luck. Figure out where you think you could have presented your skills better and try again. Lots of great places to do product management outside of Amazon and Microsoft.
    May 6, 2021 0
  • ADP
    ARPAA

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    ARPAA
    OP
    Appreciate y’all’s comments!
    May 8, 2021 0