High impact position at Twitter, or gruntwork at Google?

Dec 17, 2019 24 Comments

I've narrowed my job offers down to G and T. TC is about the same ~330k, L5 engineer at both.

I have an opportunity to join a team at Twitter which is going to be very high visibility and impact, with a team I've met and like. The other option is Google, which I'm having issues finding a team in team match that I like. Kind of derpy projects that came in as acquisitions and are on foreign tech stacks.

I really value Google's brand name on my resume/social validation, and respect the company more, but I'm concerned about not growing due to shit projects.

Any tips? Any interesting questions I should be asking hiring managers at Google to de-risk?

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  • D. E. Shaw & Co. WXia81
    Take visibility over grunt work every time.
    Dec 17, 2019 5
    • Amazon the_bezos
      Google on your resume will only get you the interview. If you did nothing but grunt work there, the interview will expose that (at higher levels) since you won't demonstrate ability to oversee large efforts with high visibility and impact
      Dec 18, 2019
    • Cisco !!cisco!!
      There’s also team change option. But not sure how it works in Google.
      Dec 18, 2019
  • McKinsey suckAmonky
    Just get in to G man, after that learn to hustle your way in to good projects and teams. Worst case you can always exit after two years and have your pick of impactful projects for a life time as an ex-Goog
    Dec 17, 2019 2
    • Microsoft / Eng SwiftSocks
      Lifetime of impactful projects is a stretch. I think the next job or two might be interested in a two-year stint at Goog, but will employers 10 years after? Probably not.
      Dec 17, 2019
    • Amazon thule
      Agree with MS, ex-G doesn't mean your resume is suddenly made out of gold. G has a high bar and the industry notes that, but the current state of the tech interview let's morons in everywhere - low value devs can come from the highest of prestige.

      If you've done miniscule work and not learned much, it's still not going to look good when you're applying to FAANGMULLA for your next gig because high value work is worth more to most in the industry than only a high value name.
      Dec 17, 2019
  • Dropbox xbendj
    Don't think Google has that much more brand value than Twitter in tech circle. Sure if you want to explore outside SV or freelance, you might get better recognition.
    Dec 17, 2019 2
    • Facebook Mbhgg
      Twitter has similar brand value as Dropbox, so yeah Google has a bit better brand value. Given its the same TC, really no point of choosing Twitter.
      Dec 17, 2019
    • Airbnb OHNU77
      Yeah, it depends where you want to be after this (assuming you don't fall in love w this role and stay forever). In SV I think most people will value Twitter brand the same as Google brand as far as vouching for your eng credibility. Outside SV, fb & g are vaunted (this is what Beijing colleagues told me).
      Dec 18, 2019
  • Amazon MGAATFQ
    Brand value only go to certain extent. Choose the team and work that you love doing and it will naturally grow you than just brand value. Brand value may get you interview loop but so does referral and social circle. It's the experience and impact that would matter in long run
    Dec 17, 2019 0
  • HP / Eng 6’3 German
    Google >>> Twitter this isn’t even close. You can do the grunt work for a year and go anywhere after that. Unfortunately the Google resume brand is too valuable.
    Dec 17, 2019 0
  • Facebook Mbhgg
    330k for L5? Too low. Go to Google, not worth the risk for the same money.
    Dec 17, 2019 0
  • Amazon thule
    I've had the choice of choosing bigger responsibilities over shinier brands a few times now, and I'm much further along than most my peers for choosing the former.

    Be wary of the blind top name circlejerk if you care about career progression - tier 1s definitely boost your resume, but don't be moronic enough to think a name is gonna hold its own weight when you've done things much less impactful.

    Additionally, if a top name ever falls from grace, measurable impact will always be valuable to the higher bidder.
    Dec 17, 2019 0
  • Salesforce tech_god
    Make a poll.
    Dec 17, 2019 1
  • Microsoft fuckcoding
    Twitter Seattle?
    Dec 17, 2019 1
  • HP / Eng 6’3 German
    And don’t forget you could always change teams after 1 year at Google
    Dec 18, 2019 0

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