Tech IndustryDec 17, 2019
NewZuccmeoff

High impact position at Twitter, or gruntwork at Google?

I've narrowed my job offers down to G and T. TC is about the same ~330k, L5 engineer at both. I have an opportunity to join a team at Twitter which is going to be very high visibility and impact, with a team I've met and like. The other option is Google, which I'm having issues finding a team in team match that I like. Kind of derpy projects that came in as acquisitions and are on foreign tech stacks. I really value Google's brand name on my resume/social validation, and respect the company more, but I'm concerned about not growing due to shit projects. Any tips? Any interesting questions I should be asking hiring managers at Google to de-risk?

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Microsoft fuckcoding Dec 17, 2019

Twitter Seattle?

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Zuccmeoff OP Dec 17, 2019

Nope, why?

D. E. Shaw & Co. WXia81 Dec 17, 2019

Take visibility over grunt work every time.

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Zuccmeoff OP Dec 17, 2019

You don't think having "Google" on your resume is worth it? I don't ever want to go thru their interview process again. Fucking sucks.

Boeing chhakkaBoy Dec 17, 2019

Twitter is not a no-name spot by any means. Having real impact that you can talk about and promos will speak for a lot.

Salesforce tech_god Dec 17, 2019

Make a poll.

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Zuccmeoff OP Dec 17, 2019

Done

McKinsey suckAmonky Dec 17, 2019

Just get in to G man, after that learn to hustle your way in to good projects and teams. Worst case you can always exit after two years and have your pick of impactful projects for a life time as an ex-Goog

Microsoft SwiftSocks Dec 17, 2019

Lifetime of impactful projects is a stretch. I think the next job or two might be interested in a two-year stint at Goog, but will employers 10 years after? Probably not.

Amazon thule Dec 17, 2019

Agree with MS, ex-G doesn't mean your resume is suddenly made out of gold. G has a high bar and the industry notes that, but the current state of the tech interview let's morons in everywhere - low value devs can come from the highest of prestige. If you've done miniscule work and not learned much, it's still not going to look good when you're applying to FAANGMULLA for your next gig because high value work is worth more to most in the industry than only a high value name.

Amazon MGAATFQ Dec 17, 2019

Brand value only go to certain extent. Choose the team and work that you love doing and it will naturally grow you than just brand value. Brand value may get you interview loop but so does referral and social circle. It's the experience and impact that would matter in long run

Amazon thule Dec 17, 2019

I've had the choice of choosing bigger responsibilities over shinier brands a few times now, and I'm much further along than most my peers for choosing the former. Be wary of the blind top name circlejerk if you care about career progression - tier 1s definitely boost your resume, but don't be moronic enough to think a name is gonna hold its own weight when you've done things much less impactful. Additionally, if a top name ever falls from grace, measurable impact will always be valuable to the higher bidder.

Facebook Mbhgg Dec 17, 2019

330k for L5? Too low. Go to Google, not worth the risk for the same money.

HP 6’3 German Dec 17, 2019

Google >>> Twitter this isn’t even close. You can do the grunt work for a year and go anywhere after that. Unfortunately the Google resume brand is too valuable.

Dropbox xbendj Dec 17, 2019

Don't think Google has that much more brand value than Twitter in tech circle. Sure if you want to explore outside SV or freelance, you might get better recognition.

Facebook Mbhgg Dec 18, 2019

Twitter has similar brand value as Dropbox, so yeah Google has a bit better brand value. Given its the same TC, really no point of choosing Twitter.

Airbnb OHNU77 Dec 18, 2019

Yeah, it depends where you want to be after this (assuming you don't fall in love w this role and stay forever). In SV I think most people will value Twitter brand the same as Google brand as far as vouching for your eng credibility. Outside SV, fb & g are vaunted (this is what Beijing colleagues told me).

Apple popcult Dec 18, 2019

Break down of Google comp ?