Expected TC at Epic Systems and Capital One.

Nov 1, 2021 16 Comments

I have my offer discussion call with Epic recruiter in couple of hours and Capital one later this week.

I'd appreciate you sharing your TC breakdown. These are extra data points to go with levels.fyi

Epic Role: Software Engineer 1
Epic Location: Madison, WI

Capital one Role: Software Engineer
Capital one Location: Chicago, IL

YOE: 9 months fulltime + 2 years internships (Faang and other companies)
Degree: MS & BS CompE

#EpicSystems #capitalone #softwareengineer #softwareengineersalary

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TOP 16 Comments
  • New / Eng
    zIMm26

    New Eng

    PRE
    UnitedHealth Group
    zIMm26
    Stay away from Epic…thank me later
    Nov 1, 2021 2
    • Great start! I am leaning more towards capital one. Thanks for sharing but would you mind sharing what you dislike about them? Feel free to message me if you'd like.
      Nov 1, 2021
    • Epic
      EDDg18

      Go to company page Epic

      EDDg18
      There's a ton to dislike - upper management is abysmal (see glassdoor reviews - sort by recent), the tech stack is an abomination, and the engineering culture is awful. Comp is meh starting out (but might beat Capital One) and becomes very bad the longer you stay.

      That being said it's a GREAT springboard to better companies--I got contacted by FAAG+ recruiters (no N), offers at all, and declined for a better offer at a smaller company. The sooner you GTFO the better though; long term Epic is a horrible employer. Short term (<2 yrs) it was a good one - I've heard very bad things from friends still there that are looking to leave so that might not be the case, but there are so many incompetent employees you can work <20hrs/wk and focus on getting a better job elsewhere!
      Nov 6, 2021
  • Capital One / Eng
    YANX21

    Go to company page Capital One Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    YANX21
    Capital One you are likely to get 110k-120k depending on location.
    Very good 401k plan, decent insurance.
    WLB is generally pretty good for *most*. Some teams are 50hr/wks.
    Quality of work in general is poor - most teams are not working on particularly interesting projects in my experience, and our codebase quality has not been the best in my experience.

    That being said, if you join planning to stay a year or two, i think it’s not bad. They’ll pay for you to get your AWS cert, and it’s a decent jumping off point to larger companies.

    Also not bad if you are not work motivated and just wanna find a chill team to coast to retirement on.

    Feel free to DM if you have questions about cap1, but you’ll know more than me about our offers after your call (we got a market adjustment in july and there are rumors of another at the end of the year)
    Nov 1, 2021 0
  • Epic
    sBHU76

    Go to company page Epic

    sBHU76
    Epic won't negotiate on salary, though recently they've started offering free stock to the compensation package for new devs.

    Madison is a nice little city and much lower CoL compared to Chicago.

    Note that Epic permits zero WFH, and has sub-par vacation and 401k compared to rest of industry. Though health insurance is phenomenal.
    Nov 1, 2021 1
  • You currently work at Amazon, and you’re considering switching to Epic?
    Nov 2, 2021 3
  • Visa
    particles-

    Go to company page Visa

    particles-
    Is that new grad? It’s pretty standard for that. Add 5k to previous year
    Nov 1, 2021 1