Hi, So I am supposed to get an offer from Google very soon, but it is dragging a lot. Instead of signing and joining in December, it now appears that would be in January. If my understanding is correct, it means I won't get a RSU refresh for 2020. I intend to negotiate a higher sign-on bonus to make up for this, because the delays were absolutely on their side. What is the usual RSU refresher for an average employee SWM L5 ? I assume something around 50K ? Thanks
L5 SWM ?? Interesting. Care to share your offer ?
Need to stay anonymous. I might have said too much already.
Sorry to say but I generally have no respect for L5 managers. I'm surprised Google offer this externally. A lot of L5s can't even get their own shit together let alone effectively managing people. Of the cases I've seen, their reports' career are miserable. To answer your question, refreshers are generally a little over 100k, should be no different from a regular L5 SWE.
As I see it, starting in January is essentially 100K less than starting 12/31. Not doing that pro-rated is just bad form IMHO. I am in the same situation where it does not appear I can get onboard in Dec. I brought this up to my recruiter and asked for something to balance that out. I know you can get some discretionary bonus from the manager but who knows, and it won't be 100K I bet. Recruiter just said I would still be eligible for a "raise" whatever that is... I already was offered a decent signing bonus and know I can't get 100K on top of that! Will just have to press on the GSUs portion more if it is a 2020 start.
What did you end up doing?
what the hell is a SWM
Software engineering manager