I am considering a move to Amazon but heard things that work life balance at Amazon is pretty bad. can any Amazon folks validate that? Do you like working at Amazon? Would you recommend it? #amazonperks #worklifebalance
From what I’ve seen here, good learning opportunities at the cost of WLB
Solely because of wlb? Or were there other reasons?
But why join Microsoft?
The trend seems to be that SDE’s don’t like it. It appears they have bad WLB and quickly PIP you. Non-SDE’s seem happier
I see more happier SDEs everyday than on Blind. Of course at the end of the day, you have to choose which side of the story you want to believe in. As for putting people on PIP to block them from leaving (I think you actually mean dev list, PIP success rate is lower than failure rate), I never understood why people claim this is rampant. I am not in denial, I believe this happens. But I really don’t get it. When someone leaves, usu there is a backfill req you get to open straight away. There are some orgs which over hired and thus cannot backfill, but this is the collective bad of everyone who over hired in the org. Some attrition is good. Some HR studies cite 10%. Keeping a team together for 3 years with 0 attrition isn’t good, you need fresh energy and ideas every now and then.
I don't know a single team where attrition is as low as 10%. And therefore, since the backfill reqs pile on, managers use dev list to block employees from transferring. We got reorged and the manager put one of the new employees, who didn't choose this new team, on dev list to avoid switching teams
Amazon wlb seems to very from very poor wlb to “oh my fucking god this work life balance is so poor that your health is at risk!” What’s funny is the amount of Stockholm syndrome and how many people who think their working life balance isn’t too bad simply because others have it worse.
Is WLB bad in all the teams?
This reply hits home pretty hard. I am bored at my current job. I miss the insanity at aws.
Only perk is 10% $100 max discount on products shipped and sold by Amazon. The rest is pretty brutal. Only go there if the offer is amazing (first 2 years pay is almost all cash) or you want to boost your resume. Do not go there if you consider yourself an average Joe who needs any amount of handholding, you'll get PIPed.
That’s the only thing that keeps me even halfway considering responding to the constant Amazon recruiters in my inbox is if I get a good offer the first two years it’s all cash and could really learn a lot. But I had team I was on last year that had terrible WLB balance whenever I was on call which was way too frequent because the team wasn’t large enough because of high turnover I feel like that was a foreshadowing of what working for Amazon might be like and it gave me some pause lol But the manager of that team really liked me cause I could get whatever he asked done without needing any handholding. Just got to be too much being woken up in the middle of the night and constant fire fighting.
If you could clear Amazon interviews, there’s a good chance you can clear Microsoft interviews as well. I would do that and go to Microsoft (some non Azure team) if the focus is on WLB. Amazon expects to extract every ounce of your energy for what they’re paying you. It’s a very polarising culture. You will either love it (and never leave) or hate it (and can’t wait to leave). Ask yourself: 1. Is WLB important to you? 2. Do you connect with leadership principles? (Or do you think they’re weird mumbo-jumbo) 3. Are you okay with the same salar for 4 years? If the answer to these questions is No, then Amazon is not for you.
Never interviewed with Microsoft, so curious on what aspect you compared Amazon interview with Microsoft interviews. My profile is always rejected by Microsoft, so I wonder what they look for in resume? Personal projects?
The algorithm questions are similar in the interviews for both companies. Microsoft also isn’t big on system design (if you work there you’ll know actually how badly almost every system there is designed 😅). There’s no leadership principles based rounds.
Depends on team
Pretty bad
Depends on the team. Do ask about the ops and oncall pressure before joining a team
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