How many % of e5's are placed on pip each year at Facebook?
Your best estimate based on what you observe.
This is very hard to say, since quite a few people will start interviewing when they feel they are not performing well and have a pip risk.
Yeah Im sure only FB eng employees are voting
What's with the obsession around pips?
Does FB blacklist if someone leaves while on PIP?
🙄 maybe in Amazon
Did you ever work at Amazon or follow any discussion? A is the least forgiving and king of kicking out low performers ... forever. That’s why I was trying to know if other companies are these strict?
OP has a lucrative offer to join FB at an E5. Go ahead and join they’ll put you straight into PIP
you're acting very very weird today. https://www.teamblind.com/article/reneging-facebook-due-to-WLB-fears---will-i-get-blacklisted-BHdJe3XE very doubtful you actually got an offer
It was a joke...
I pip you Facebook. Get the fuck outta my life.
It's no where near 15%. People voting are trolling or stupid.
Myth 1: there are a lot of PIPs at FB. Probably false. Myth 2: if FB has industry average PIPs and retention, then it must be great. False. FB is a very large standard deviation place in terms of managers, projects/goals, teams/coworkers/orgs etc. YMMV is extremely true :) Although it's true a lot of people leave after year 1, I think it's more typical, that people are "hopeful or indifferent" and try to survive/suffer longer and earn out their initial RSUs before moving (or be "forced to move), although with the stock stuck in a trading range for the last 2 years, that's a lot less true than in the past.
Tell us more about the people who are forced out? Presumably you mean managed out prior to pip to keep pip rates low. Also tell us about the people who are would like to leave but are riding it out due to the large stock vests
The most extreme options always consist of the most trolls. That's why the # votes decreases from the "5 to 10％" to "10 to 15％" then rises again for "> 15％" (anti-FB haters). There is an unusual bump in "1 to 3％" as well (kool-aid drinkers and people who think it would be funny to choose the lowest number). The real mode is probably "5 to 10％", and that's the closest to the 2x Google's multiplier I've heard cited by a number of FB employees. That covers the median of the poll's distribution, which is around 10％, and the median is robust to outliers (unlike the average).
A 10% pip rate is pretty high. What % are being actively managed out prior to pip? How many leave fearing a pip? Maybe 10% are in pip with another 10% being managed out. That’s a 20% danger rate. Pretty high probably 2x most companies. if 20% are in danger then the next 20% are under constant fear of dipping into that category.
The problem of not knowing exactly where you lie does create an "efficient" organizational culture of fear. Without it, the 20％ ranking workers would slack until they reach 11％, or some safe threshold.
Yes sorry fb