How to ask more after offer?

SAP
RUBie

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RUBie
Oct 17, 2019 17 Comments

I will get an offer from FAANG soon. I have a job currently but no counter offers. After recruiter makes an offer, how can I ask for more?

Last call recruiter said she will see what others in team with my yoe and degree make and offer accordingly. She said this will mean a fair offer with no back and forth after (basically telling me no wiggle room).

is it true and I should just accept what I am offered?

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  • Amazon
    Yeo

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    Yeo
    You likely had other leverage, but you’ll leave that out in order to be right here.
    Oct 17, 2019 5
    • New / Eng
      00ck52

      New Eng

      00ck52
      You keep saying the companies know the ranges and know what compensation should be and yet almost everyone I know has gotten a small bump just by trying to negotiate. So clearly there's a benefit and the companies aren't offering you everything on the table right away.
      Oct 17, 2019
    • Amazon
      Yeo

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      Yeo
      It’s information. It’s not a scare tactic. You’re welcome. Glad I could help.
      Oct 17, 2019
  • Amazon
    Yeo

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    Yeo
    As a hiring manager, know that you’re likely not the only candidate interviewing and working the recruiter over for every little penny is what makes you look less sophisticated and desirable. Recruiters want to hire you. They have to hit their hiring goals, so the good ones make sure there are 3-4 candidates coming onsite for the same
    Role, so you play hard ball and they will start working with the next one in line. Your recruiter was also wise to set expectations. He/she has been down this road. They know a lot of negotiation is a time waster.

    I see this with early in career candidates the most. They think negotiating makes them look super smart. Your recruiter was the smart one letting you know there are parameters and the sky is not the limit. There is only so much they can do. Lastly, if comp is your driver, not growth, the role, the team, the company, they will find this a turn-off. This is what we think of as EQ. Think of the whole package and how the role will contribute, over time, to your growth and future earnings, not just right now earnings.
    Oct 17, 2019 3
    • Amazon
      Yeo

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      Yeo
      I didn’t say don’t ask dummy. Read it again.
      Oct 17, 2019
    • New
      FzSD24

      New

      FzSD24
      This sounds like a recruiters pov.

      3-4 may interview, but only one gets an offer at a time. It's the recruiters job to close the funnel. Unfortunately, many recruiters (until you get to exec levels) are contract workers and treat the process transactionally and the experience feels like working with a used car salesperson. If they haven't taken time to get to know you / build a relationship don't fall for bullshit like "I am your internal negotiator", or " look at EQ" etc.

      Read the 10 rules for negotiating. Negotiate. It's not just about the compensation, but the support system and the culture you can expect in the company, the hiring manager and their chain of command.

      That said there are limits, and ranges -- most large company will not go out of band.

      Most of all, this is part of the process. Remember you are on opposite sides of the table.
      Oct 19, 2019
  • Amazon
    azmix

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    azmix
    Politely reply asking if the figures are per month or per quarter.
    Oct 17, 2019 1
  • NVIDIA / R&D
    TC?

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    TC?
    Compare to levels.fyi for the same role and aim for at least the 75th percentile
    Oct 17, 2019 0