How to really start investing and hit FIRE

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dr guac

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Aug 24, 2020 17 Comments

I'm in my mid 20s, got the good job, 401k is maxed out, automatically putting a decent amount of money into savings / investments with acorns, and steadily paying off my student loans (140k left, interest rate is ~5%), but I feel like I could be doing more.

Does anyone have any tips or links to how I could more effectively invest my money? FIRE is a hot buzzword, but I'm having trouble coming up with an effective plan. Any advice is much appreciated!

YOE: 2
TC: 195k

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  • Buy index funds or a robo investing platform like Wealthfront. Acorns is a good start but if I recall their fees were pretty high. I like wealthfront because you can link al your assets and visualize the growth of your NW to your FIRE target.
    Aug 24, 2020 3
  • Start with your goal and work backwards. For normal retirement, say you want to earn 100k per year adjusted for inflation, starting in 20 years. First figure out what that inflation-adjusted number is: 100k * (1 + r) ^ y where r is your rate (inflation, 2%) and y is the number of years (20) That equals 148k per year in 2040 dollars. Next you need to figure out life expectancy, let's say you are 25, want to retire at 45, and plan to live to 95. Add 10 years or more because you want buffer and to leave something for spouse / kids if applicable. Assuming you are using a 6% interest rate in retirement (more conservative portfolio) that means at T= 2040 you will need (use a financial calc or spreadsheet) something like $2.5M.

    Let's say you have 200k now, assuming 8% CAGR, to get there in 20 years you will need to invest 32K per year.

    Point is, depends a lot on assumptions how you want to live, how much you can save, when, etc., so build your own spreadsheet. 8-10% is a good long term rate of return for the S&P 500, but you will want to be diversified to smooth out the effects of volatility. Most portfolios should be ~ 85% diversified equities, 10% fixed income, 5% alternatives, which would include REITs, BTC, Gold etc. The key is to rebalance, if bitcoin becomes 7% of your portfolio, every quarter or so you sell down to your target benchmark and rebalance those gains to other parts of the portfolio that are lagging. That gets you an extra percent or so return over the benchmark.

    ... or just get an good financial advisor like Fisher Investments, wealthfront etc. and let them manage it.
    Aug 24, 2020 0
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    I think you should focus on paying off your student loans. 5% is very high interest these days.
    Aug 24, 2020 5
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      dr guac

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      Harsh words, but good advice. I'll consider it
      Aug 25, 2020
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      Electr!c

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      Yep, if you didn’t use FIRE, I wouldn’t have used harsh words. I really wants you to pay off like 18months and I believe you can do it. Imagine the strength and confidence you will get after that. It took me whole different level.
      Aug 25, 2020
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    Go to Vegas and Gamble.
    Aug 24, 2020 1
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    2 ideas:
    - Buy up as many shares of ETFs like VOO, QQQ that you can afford. Even if it’s like a couple shares a month. At some point start converting some ETF investment to real estate investing. This is an almost “classical approach” to building wealth, you could probably FIRE in your 40s if you commit to growing the wealth.

    - Buy as much Airbnb as you can after IPO. I think it’s gonna be one of those rare FB, TSLA, etc stocks in a few years. If it isn’t, you could lose some real money and still have time to rebound with a more conservative approach in your 30s. If it is, you could get wealthy fast.
    Aug 24, 2020 2
    • This is the dumbest portfolio advice I’ve ever seen, go read a few finance books and learn some more about how IPOs actually work, maybe plot up IPO price returns before you start dishing bad advice to people. Classic get rich quick thinking “just one IPO and imma retire a millionaire” 😂😂
      Aug 24, 2020
    • First part yes this is a way to FIRE. Second part dumb gambling.
      Aug 24, 2020