Warning: This will be a long post. I have significantly edited down this story based on inputs from friends to preserve anonymity. Sadly it means leaving out some juicy bits about how your favorite Senior Leadership Team (SLT) member or org leader showed their leadership and empathy or lack thereof. 20K number is estimate and includes vendors. I’ve got many requests to talk about how did we end up with a situation requiring mass layoffs in 2023. I will share some info here on discussions that were going on inside the company and among SLT and the board. I know many of you will say you already knew this. This post is for folks who didn’t. After all a huge chunk of the current employees are relatively recent. I want to break this story into 3 parts. 1. Early pandemic and discussions going on at the company. 2. What led to hiring boom in 2021 and early 2022. 3. When we knew thousands of employees will have to be laid-off and discussions that followed after. 1. Early pandemic. Everyone remembers the early shock in March 2020 and the 2-week work from home to flatten the curve. SLT and org leaders were in panic mode because nobody knew how this will impact productivity, release schedules, and morale. The company was assigned a liaison with direct access to WA state governor Jay Inslee’s office and WA dept of health. They dictated most of our early response. Countries around the world were putting together their own task force to provide local policy guidance for the situation. Microsoft appointed Kurt DelBene to drive the coordination and response for Microsoft globally. Kurt’s early understanding of the whole situation and help and guidance we got from the state liaison were exceptional. Microsoft became the first major company to extend WFH. (Kurt did an exceptional job unlike the next person who took up his mantle. He who shall not be named.) WA sept of health made it clear this in not a 2 week WFH deal. This will stretch for months at the minimum but we couldn’t communicate this to the employees or talk about it because of the mental health implications. There were 3 major issues on leadership’s mind. How will this impact productivity? How can we quickly scramble resources to address the sudden surge in demand for our software and services including huge demand for PCs and Teams? How do we keep the morale of employees high? Mental health implications of WFH, no social contact, not being able to interact with coworkers in person were a huge concern. We quickly came up with a strategy to provide furniture and resources to enable employees be productive at home. Org leaders were encouraged to have frequent all hands with heavy focus on morale and mental health. (Remember the constant ‘How are you handling things?’ questions?) Logistics of handling remote internship was a disaster the first remote year. Fast forward a few weeks and we had the data to show productivity actually went up by a full 8 hours/week. We allocated huge budget to ramp up hiring in orgs seeing a big increase in demand for services. We had great pandemic response team and good communication with health departments worldwide. Everything was in place to help the company navigate through this challenging time. We were also seeing huge savings from facilities and operations costs and discussed passing some of these to employees in the form of one time bonuses. 2. Hiring boom of 2021 and early 2022. Sales of our products and services skyrocketed during the pandemic just like it did for the industry as a whole. Org leaders and finance departments were making rosy projections for growth. It quickly turned into a monkey see monkey do business in entire software industry. Everyone was making rosy projections for growth. Insane numbers like 30%-40% growth for certain businesses and orgs for years to come. This was a critical moment. There were some leaders who had the foresight to see these growth numbers are not sustainable. There was also a slow but steadily growing belief that the demand was only brought forward and will quickly revert on the other end of the curve. Sadly the voices expressing skepticism were few and drowned out in the loud noise of empire building org leaders and SLT members drooling over the implications for their stock awards. Everyone in the industry (except apple) was doing it so nobody wanted to go against the wisdom of the collective. Raising debt to finance things was really cheap (especially for Microsoft given our bond rating) so everyone in the industry began hiring and collecting employees like Pokémon cards. SLT and the board did discuss the possibility of these forecasts not coming true. The overwhelming consensus was that there is a lot to be lost if it did come true and we were not prepared and resourced well to capture the opportunity. They thought the demand will last much longer and the tapering will be gradual. Similar discussions were taking place in corporate board rooms across large tech. The scene was set. The dream castles of rosy projections for revenues were built on faulty assumptions. The dissenting voices were lost in the collective chorus of greedy leaders dreaming about lofty future stock valuations. 3. The downfall. There were 3 major developments taking place in parallel which would all act as a catalyst for layoffs. - Rising hiring and retention costs. - AI and ChatGPT developments. - Sudden drop in revenue for some businesses and forecasts falling short. Hiring market was booming late 2021 and early 2022. The RSU and signing bonuses were rising at an alarming rate irking wall st. The pace of stock grants for hiring talent was not sustainable. Wall st fund managers were especially critical about the dilution of the stock to sustain the hiring and retention. Major wall st fund managers and stock holders started putting together a plan to put pressure on the wage and RSU growth. There were multiple leaks on Reddit (which is where I got the early wind of these planned industry wide layoffs) where hedge fund employees and staff were talking about dumping as high as 300-500K tech employees over year to put serious pressure on wage growth. If the CEOs and CFOs were not receptive to the idea they would pressure the board. A lot of major share holders have their person on the boards of their major holding companies. Our overlords had made up their mind and nothing could stop them. I heard much later from someone who was present at Jackson Hole Economic Symposium in Aug 2022 that these low-key discussions started taking place between CEOs, board members, large tech investors and large fund managers at Jackson hole. AI demo. OpenAI had been using a lot of Azure cloud resources. They were contemplating switching to GCP to save costs. Their computing needs were growing at an exponential rate so Azure didn’t want to lose their business. Satya sent Kevin Scott to go over to OpenAI and see if it makes sense for us to take a stake in the company in order to keep their usage on Azure. What Kevin Scott saw in their demo shocked him. He told Satya he really needs to go see it in action. After all Microsoft was building up our own AI team for years. Satya made no secret of his two big ambitions - AI and Quantum computing. OpenAI would have huge implications on our own AI investments. Satya gets a demo of the ability of OpenAI technology. It quickly became clear to Satya and Kevin that developer productivity can get a huge boost even with GPT 4. Late 2022 Satya started taking about overall employment at Tech companies dropping due to AI. He said something like ‘Tech employment overall will grow but employment at tech companies will shrink’. One major area our AI ambitions would differ from major investments in the past is this would not be in-house. Microsoft will invest in the infrastructure and let OpenAI build the product. Ramping up AI infra investment meant cutting allocations from other areas. Squeezing efficiencies is what Satya likes to say. Drop in PC sales and revenue forecasts not living up to expectations. The final nail in the coffin. PC and Xbox sales were falling at an alarming rate. Revenue forecasts for other businesses turned out to be wrong. A clear pattern started appearing by Aug 2022. By late Sept SLT had already green lit layoffs and we started hiring HR support staff and the plans were being put in place for mass layoffs. It had become abundantly clear we were heavily over staffed for the new tech reality. Budget freezes were put in place and numbers were being crunched on the magnitude of cuts needed. The behavior of SLT and a lot of org leaders was completely in contrast to the tone of empathy and ‘we are a family’ messages earlier. Some were so cold that it was surprising. It seemed like horse trading business. They just wanted to know the numbers and logistics and get it done with. By October 2022 senior leaders in most orgs knew about the scope and depth of the layoffs. Some orgs even relaxed the budget freeze to open up holiday morale budgets to have one last chance to get everyone together. Worrying about the message it would send some org leaders even did limited invite holiday parties. I happened to be at one of these parties and the sheer lack of empathy for the number of lives they are about to negatively impact really shocked me. Oct 2022 also happened to be the month I first started warning about layoffs on Microsoft channel. It kept getting flagged. I tried again in Nov but got flagged again. I moved it to tech channel in December in hopes of countering the HR flagging operation. Was mostly met with skepticism and hateful messages. Google employees were the worst. I warned about Amazon, Google, Microsoft because this is where I had very reliable sources and data. This last part is where I have heavily retracted my story. I wish I could tell you how little some senior leaders care about their employees. I wish I could show you the pictures of the partying. To this day it still makes me sick to my stomach when I think about it and have those images play in my mind. This was the third time I lost respect for Satya Nadella as our leader. The first time was how he handled the constant stream of sexual harassment complaints coming from women across the company. The evidence was overwhelming but the company slow walked it. They sheltered and protected multiple execs and even paid for their legal fees. (I had decided my kids will never work for MS after this). People who complained about harassment and hostile work environments (including Satya’s office and support staff) are systematically targeted and eliminated. Second was how he handled multiple complaints (with clear evidence) of systematic corruption and bribing for contracts by Microsoft around the world. This still happens today. Third was how he chose to handle these layoffs. Being an immigrant and father I thought he would have a little more empathy about uprooting people’s lives at this scale. Let alone taking some accountability for the actions, he asked the board for a raise while all of the above issues I mention are still ongoing. We just have a polished PR and HR machinery to handle this now. I see it as a huge moral failure. It’s all a numbers game folks and remember this when the market improves soon. There is no empathy here. Sorry about the long post. Thank you for reading. Hope it was worth your time. 🫡 Please like the post if you enjoyed it. 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Thank you for the transparency as always. To be honest I generally felt good about the company until the layoffs - not just that they happened (business realities), but the very poor way they were executed, with basically zero communication other than the Wall Street message from Satya and the vague doublespeak about empathy. I wondered if this was just that Satya and Amy had never handled layoffs as C*Os before and that was why they did a terrible job. From your description it sounds like they just didn't care enough to do a good one. Is that fair?
Tough times reveal true colors.
It's amazing how many people bought into the empathy BS and thought D&I efforts were anything other than pandering to the zeitgeist.
The push for D&I initiatives and mass layoffs come from same few sources.
Amazing summary. Fully agree that after Kurt DelBene was gone, the communication went downhill. Part 2 is the result of Satya being surrounded by sycophants. For Part 3, the AI segment is not a real factor. Kevin and Satya are dumber than that. Nothing they could see outside would convince them to invest in OpenAI. Instead, they pushed to buy a competitor with a cool name and icon (🤗). The only factor was the communication from OpenAI that they were going to GCP. That, and significant customers were moving to GCP from AWS without even considering Microsoft, was the dealbreaker. Satya doesn't like OpenAI and doesn't like Facebook and many other companies. He expresses that open and vulgar language in meetings with a smaller attendance, to the shock of very polite top researchers who left disappointed, both the meeting and the company. That is minor, and overall the post is valuable. I saw the layoffs coming from inside and jumped ship before that. The teams were super bloated, and many Amazon employees brought hordes of friends into Microsoft. Even if there were no layoffs, soon the cronyism would make working in some teams intolerable. Satya still lives in the shadow of Ballmer and resents that. There is no billion-dollar business that he started. As soon as the stock begins to fall, both because AI is a hoax and because of the overall economy, the downfall will be terrible for the employees who joined recently and are not in protected cliques.
Why does Satya hate OpenAI? Does he himself understand that AI is a hype at this point? Also what are your impression of Google?
What do you think of Google? I agree that many of those same things could be said of Google too.
Google is suffering from an identity crisis. Old-timers are lost, seeking for a Google that no longer exists. New hires are lost, since the onboarding became a mess due to the company changes. I read far more and know more about GRAD than my manager and colleagues. They cannot go three sentences without some reference to Perf. Same for promos. This will last at last a couple of years, and I'm unsure if I'll have the patience to wait until the company decides. That said, Google is still better in many aspects. From compensation to really support diversity, instead of just asking managers to say pronouns and long descriptions of body and clothes ahead of any appearance. The company also has better tools and processes, which are more standardized at least within Google (not that much around Alphabet).
Thanks, are you the same Rainman that called out the Google layoffs by PA last November? If so, you gave a sincere heads up/warning and everyone on the Google channel was calling you a troll, even though you did everyone a solid
Yes, I am. They called me way worse names when I put out the Google post. Besides the DM, Some Google employees sent me screenshots of internal discussions and that’s how I know. For a bunch of highly paid super smart employees it was really shocking to me how hurtful they got when I merely challenged their notion of the utopia they they were living in. I’m sorry the G-bubble burst but all I was trying to do was give an early warning. Laidoff Google employees were treated way worse than any other company. But I get it, they gave employees access that could potentially cause a lot of service disruption. That incidence was also when I promised to retain the original 🌧️Rain🌧️ user handle so I can come back later and apologize publicly if I’m wrong. Still waiting to hear from the Google employee who took me up on it. Sadly the blind ban policies and missed test cases with spaces resulted in me having to keep changing the handles. But I’m still here. Not because of any ego or any sense of grandeur. Only so I can make a ‘I see the light at the end of the tunnel’ post soon and ride into the sunset. From that rainy PNW fall night in Oct ‘22 till date I have never forgotten my goal. It’s to help my fellow techies prepare emotionally, mentally, and financially for the upcoming short term disruption and hopefully help people navigate the path forward. If you’re a parent you will probably understand what I mean.
Thank you Rain. I really felt this post.
I appreciate it. I remember reading it during Thanksgiving break and it was way more transparency than anything we got officially within Google. Since you're so much more aware of the inside stuff at the top, I have two questions: 1) In the Microsoft situation you described, why did Satya ask the Board for a raise? I can't imagine what he used to justify it when he was discussing mass layoffs with the Board 2) Do you have any info about a 2nd mass layoff at Google? I saw some post on the Google channel about another big round being prepared for Nov 17, just not sure if it's real or not
Cool story but what makes you think the situation is going to improve soon now that the overlords know we can do more with less?
Without getting into specifics, because AI is actually falling short and this ain’t my first rodeo. 2023 is nothing compared to 2001. Tech will bounce back. Demand for good talent will go up. Surf’s up soon.
I hope you're right rain. If it didn't fall short you know SLT would cut so many more people.
If AI and Microsoft's adoption of it is not up to scratch, that's an even more worrisome situation for MSFTies.
Can you use ChadGPT to summarize the most juicy part using <500 words?
Read the whole thing, it's worth it
Here you go (decide the quality of summarization by yourself): This post summarizes the internal discussions at a tech company, likely Microsoft, during the early days of the pandemic, a hiring boom in 2021-2022, and the eventual mass layoffs in late 2022. It highlights how initial concerns about productivity and morale during remote work evolved into a rush to hire and make optimistic growth projections. However, several factors, including rising hiring costs, developments in AI, and declining PC sales, led to layoffs. The author criticizes the lack of empathy from senior leaders and mentions previous instances where they felt leadership had failed to address issues like sexual harassment and corruption. Overall, it underscores the disconnect between corporate decisions and employee well-being.
Legend, thx
I hope Business Insider interviews you RAIN. Thank you so much for the clear and concise info. They needs to be exposed through the media beyond Blind. ****BUSINESS INSIDER**** If you are reading this, please interview RAIN anonymously.
Thank you. They did reach out a while ago. I haven’t engaged so far. I remember mini used to do media interviews. Haven’t given much thought to this though.
Yes, Mini did a few of them. It would be ideal for this given the industry implications. The narrative needs to be reset.
Rain, PLEASE DO IT. You are the Leah Rimini of Tech. Change can only happen if the public knows it
Thanks Rain! Do you have an unabridged, unredacted version that you can share if we DM you? Or is this the only version you're comfortable distributing?
Sorry but at this point this is all that I’m planning to share based on the ‘advise of my counsel’. I want to protect my anonymity plus I’m holding on to some really damming info along with evidence as my get out of jail free card.
Makes sense. Thanks again for sharing as much as you did! The context is very helpful.
I hope you're not using ARAG😛
This is the best post ever. Remember folks, love the work you do but not the company you work for. Always make decisions for what is best for yourselves. As much as how distasteful SLT may have acted, it is only human nature. Their roles require making tough decisions like these.
@OP Have you been fired?
Waiting for it. I can use a break.
I was worried because of the 🫡 Hope not, but I can understand if that's what you want. It sucks reading this stuff, can only immagine what you feel having lived it in first person.
It’s interesting to observe how the community adopts certain emojis and lingo. 🫡 is certainly an emoji we collectively adopted as a community during the layoffs. I assume it was an allude to thank you for your service. Then there was the lingo of now you get promoted to a customer. Initially a lot of people called me a fraud but I remember the first lingo-promo I got from there on after the layoff announcement email from Satya and the Amazon plus Google layoff announcements. I suddenly became Rainman for a few weeks. Then as speculation around my gender grew it morphed more towards gender neutral terms with the height of it being promoted to Rain deity. I got so many DMs saying “People are speculating you’re a women” with link to a blind post. Never understood the purpose of those DMs. I’m happy just to be part of the community and help in any way I can.
I’m surprised so see so few reactions to hearing that Wall Street was actively trying suppress wages across the board for tech employees. I understand that Fed policy can impact wages from a macro-economic perspective, but the idea of private Wall Street bankers deciding to go above and beyond Fed policy to suppress wages in a specific sector feels more sinister. It helps make sense of the zero merit increase and some other bizarre SLT behavior lately. Is there something that is very obvious to everyone else that I’m missing here? But none of this excuses what Rain brought to light today. And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I’m not interested in tech worker unionization.
Agree. Back in 2010 companies like apple and Google in fact collaborated to keep wages down for workers and preventing switching. Definitely needs more attention. Curious to know any potential solutions to this.
I think we already knew that, that’s why people aren’t reacting now. Remember that email from that hedge fund that was going around blind earlier in the year advocating for mass layoffs?
Yeah, unfortunately this just reinforces my gut feeling that this was all driven because of Wall Street. Worst kept secret honestly.