IBM Comp
I am interested in joining IBM. I have phd in cs and currently data scientist / sw dev with 3ish industry years of exp. These days what is IBM offering? Base? Bonus? Stocks?
you will earn one third of your current pay. do you still want to join?
And you'll never get a bonus or raise
Not true. I got an 8% raise this year.
Shit. Shit. And none
IBM is done
What is your current comp and level? If youre being underpaid it's possible that ibm could do better
I don't think IBM is worth pursuing except for may be IBM research.
The team i am interviewing with is research arm
A former coworker that works on the Q research team love it. Loads of autonomy and room to explore apparently. I wouldn't expect the company will know what to do with it though.
Even Warren Buffett bailed out of IBM
IBMer here. Base is good if you are at high band, equivalent to big tech but you won't get any bonus (may be a steak dinner bonus. I exceeded all my goals and got $800 😂) or RSU. Cost cutting everywhere even Watson. Co-workers are awesome but you will deal with incompetent managers. Why IBM? Why not Google? I had an offer from Uber, I could tell the cultures are very different. I'm jumping ship to join Facebook soon.
Ugh. Take me with you.
So only base offer, no bonus or stock? Wtf?
Btw thx for your input
You will probably get a decent offer. what you won't get is a raise. In 10+ years, I've gotten 7 shares of stock (4 after tax). I once got a bonus that was 10% of base, but that hasn't happened in the 20+ quarters of declining revenue...best has been 2%. The experience might be worth it for a couple of years if the offer is good. Then you can bail for better money like all the other talent.
That sounds quite grim. Why don't people leave then?
"The experience might be worth it for a couple of years if the offer is good. Then you can bail for better money like all the other talent." This is too real for me right now. Just passed my 2 year mark, no hope of a bonus or raise, and my product was merged with another team in a re-org. My managers were replaced and my New management is under the impression that front end developers are on the team to solely develop high fidelity prototypes for user testing. Then the prototype is thrown over the fence to engineers who get to implement designs and UI code that hasn't been cross browser tested and 0 thought given to scalability. Not bitter at all.
Don't.
Valid reason why not?
Because it's IBM. When it's on your resume people say "ewwwwwww"