Invasive over board contracts (NDAs)

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gOHU20

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I have not worked as an employee for many years because I have been a contractor.

Rightfully so, the large company I am working for with well-known client brands is cracking down on their security protocols. Their contract is super overly broad and invasive. My gauge for how normal and acceptable this is is not clear.

Some examples:
1- use of computer monitoring of any computer or device you own no clear limitations to this policy
2- anything you 'invent' even not during company hours is considered owned by the company. This would literally include a cookbook you wrote for example. And the company is in the auto industry. You would not be able to continue receiving royalties on this book.
3- you have to keep tabs on any file you create and delete everything within 48 hours of using/delivering it.
4- constant virus scanning etc...
5- not allowed to work for any other company period
6- non-solicitation, etc.

In your experience, is this reasonable? Is this normal for a high level role? How liable can an employee be, potentially? The way it is worded makes working there seem like more of a risk than a reward.

#contracts #hr #employment #privacy

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  • Salesforce / Eng
    dolor

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    dolor
    “anything you 'invent' even not during company hours is considered owned by the company. This would literally include a cookbook you wrote for example. And the company is in the auto industry. “

    Sounds like the story of Michelin star rating for restaurants
    Yesterday 0
  • Apple / Eng
    phase

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    phase
    The TC determines if this is worth it. However, I think this is overreach and likely some of these are not enforceable, either practically speaking or because of state laws.
    Yesterday 6
    • New
      gOHU20

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      gOHU20
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      Where/what industry would be better? I came from being a freelancer and I would probably have to go back to that.
      Yesterday
    • Apple / Eng
      phase

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      phase
      I think smaller tech companies have fewer crazy clauses in their contracts. Not all companies seek to own everything you do or monitor your tech (Apple doesn't monitor personal devices either).
      Yesterday
  • Earnest
    flimbybrab

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    flimbybrab
    I think you're overthinking these things TBH,
    Yesterday 3
    • Earnest
      flimbybrab

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      flimbybrab
      Exactly they're just protecting themselves if some big shit happens, you're still small fry to these places this is all super boilerplate, I've seen hundreds of these. You'll be good!
      Yesterday
    • New
      gOHU20

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      gOHU20
      OP
      Do you know of any worst-case scenarios? I have a bad habit of thinking the worst like my life being ruined.
      Yesterday
  • Pretty standard clauses for all major tech companies nowadays
    Yesterday 1
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      gOHU20

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      gOHU20
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      I work for an agency that uses 'billable' hours. Does device monitoring mean that they want to make sure I am sitting at my computer for 8 hours a day? Seems like a lot of BS.
      Yesterday