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Note: i am a third year undergraduate cs student in tier 3 college. Asking this question because ... 1) I noticed that people from my college and other colleges (in india) who didn't even get good internships or jobs(or got jobs in tier 3 companies), after completing master in USA, they got job offers from Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon. So, how suddenly they got these good offers if they were getting shitt jobs before. 2) I have seen people (who are not in india) posting on BLIND(sometimes on LeetCode too)that how they got google offers after completing 100-150 LC. ( I have seen maximum 500-600 LC) But in INDIA, people who got google offers right after college or after 1,2 years of experience are Master in codeforces, or they have done 1500-2000 problems on different sites(like hackerrank, codeforces,codechef,hackerearth). MEANS they are master in competitive programming. And 1500-2000 problems are far more than 150-300 LC(which often people post on blind) Is it because there is too much competition in india. So, if i want to get into google, should i apply for google Munich, Zurich, London instead of google india??
What @scheme said. Another way to get into these companies is to work your way up, gaining experience and reputation (like a RPG). That's what I did, took me 5yrs.
Thanks for the advice!! Did you get the Facebook offer from India??
Yes, I got it while working for an Indian org in India
I had the exact similar observation. Hiring bar in US is way lower than India(probably because of the demand/supply ratio). Having said the it’s kind of like a fat tail distribution. The smartest people in US in a company are way smarter than anyone in the same company in India. Moreover I would suggest that try not to optimize for a particular company but rather what you want to work on.
True, i also feel the same!
I don't think its the hiring bar. I think the issue is getting calls is way more difficult. Once you get the interview call, I think the interview loop is similar
Also the people working in tier 3 companies in India that also move on to tier 1 companies in US, probably didn’t like being in India in the first place. So they naturally tried much harder to leave India.
@MicroGoogl, It might be true, but i still feel that the interviews in India are harder because everyone is preparing very hard and also performing very well and they can't hire everyone. So eventually they raised the bar!☹️
Don't know about other companies in US, but Amazon is like TCS for US students, every other guy who has done MS has an offer from them 😂.
Couldn't agree more, everyday there are two three post on LinkedIn about getting a job at Amazon(specially from Indian students)😂
You really shouldn’t need over 100 questions on lc for job interviews It’s a job, not a competitive dev contest. And it’s diminishing returns if not burning yourself up at some point Don’t understand how 400 or 1000 is a bar for anything...
I'm 99.999% sure you are not indian Because you haven't seen the situation here, ( or you might be senior who is unaware of the current situation) that is why you commented this. No problem. :) Agree that it shouldn't be competitive dev contest, BUT it has became the competitive contest because of the competition. And competition exists because of the overpopulation!😕
I am not Indian - right But not originally American so I’ve interviewed and worked in different parts of the world If it’s so - it’s a shot show and doesn’t show higher hiring bar but stupider testing method. (9 years as sde - close to 20 in tech)
Who gives a f***. It's all the same once u get in.
I give, for these words "once you get in" Because I want to get in and that's why asking this question that what is easier and has higher chances, interviewing at other countries office or at INDIA office. I don't mind to relocate
I am from Bangalore. I can somewhat agree with you. Have attended G before. Post that, I have received multiple calls from G in last two years. But I prefer applying to other locations for G than India.
Yaa, i am also thinking to apply to other locations, But i am wondering, what are the chances of a response from recruiters if you are from india and apply to different location.? I mean do they prefer you over the person who is from same country or at least do they call you if you are a foreign applicant?
You can literally apply to any company in most of the countries. I have received calls from F London (which I failed badly). Apart from that many big companies in Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Ireland and Singapore have given opportunity to interview. Also, a point to note, Bengaluru salary is competitive when compared to EU and SIN.
It is harder. The number of openings in those companies in US is much higher than in Bangalore etc.. but the number of applicants will be almost the same. So, that is the problem. That is why I did master's, only to get a fair chance to get into those top companies. Even my current employer Cisco wouldn't have even looked at my profile when I applied in India. Granted, my bachelor's was in telecommunication engineering. And MS in computers.
Exactly, absolutely agree with you, that's why i am thinking that if i don't get a job in FAANG in india then will do Master in USA. That's the only option I have ☹️
@Elon_Tusk 🙄"if i dont get a job in FAANG".
Ok I see that you are from Tier 3 college. I am also from one of those. ;) Totally understand your situation. It's not easy to get calls as a fresher from big companies or other locations. I would suggest you gain some relavent experience.
Sure, i have Amazon internship offer for summer 2020. So,will try to get return offer. 1)if i get the return offer then will get some years of experience and then apply to different places. 2) if i don't get the return offer then will do Master in usa or canada. This is what i have planned so far :)
I have interviewed quite a few internal transfer candidates for Amazon at L5 level (transferring to a role in the US from India). I have been disappointed by most of them. Many of them were from tier 1 colleges. I do however notice, rather clearly, the contempt these engineers have for the ones that joined Amazon after an MS in the US, which does seem unwarranted considering their interview performance 😂 . I have heard similar talk from my peers here who were able to transfer to the US from India. Most can't walk the talk. Some are outright show-offs with very little to show other than where they completed their undergrad. Many such engineers end up resting on their only laurel (their undergrad education) and never go too far. It's good actually; just keep stroking their egos and they will gladly stay in oblivion. Less competition.
You could solve all the problems there are and still not get in. So many other factors are at play during an interview. I bet competition is definitely a factor in India. Not just for G but for most companies. Doesn't hurt to apply to the locations you've mentioned. If you're from a tier 3 college like you say then getting a call from G can also be an issue considering the amount of applications they receive from tier 1 and 2.
Yes, getting a call from G is definitely an issue and only possible way is through a referral , that's why i am building network on LinkedIn, trying to connect to google SWE prople and recruiters. Any other advice?
Check if they have hiring events in India. Don't think Google has them but Amazon has a lot of hiring events at least in the US. Getting an interview through such events is probably easier.