Is this Amazon Seattle SDE2 L5 offer low-ball? Amazonians pls advise.

Jan 19 58 Comments

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  • Akamai Technologies sso33
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    Apparently, they already got the VP approval. If they weren't gonna raise it to above 250K mark, then why the heck did they need VP approval?
    Also, please note that my feedback was amazing. I'm basically already an SDE III.
    Jan 19 16
    • Akamai Technologies
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      250 “on” Seattle? Are you Indian? English doesn’t appear to be your native tongue.
      Jan 19
    • Amazon readme.q
      Oh ... sorry I’m not from the American master race 🙏
      Wrote on instead of in. It’s literally the next letter and I’m typing ON my smartphone, during the weekend...

      And if you really care so much - nope - I’m not Indian
      Nope, English is not my native tongue.
      Yet I can read and write 5 different languages of which 2 are at a professional working level.

      Thanks for the worry btw.
      Jan 19
  • Amazon Stonks📈
    No, not a lowball. L5 max is 250k so you’re right in the middle of the band.
    You can only exceed 250k with competing offers with a VP exception
    Jan 19 2
    • Microsoft Chym06
      How far they can go with exception for L5?
      Jan 19
    • Amazon yuh65h7
      Maybe 10% if the Hm really wants you
      Jan 20
  • Amazon BananaBro
    No, this is an above average L5 offer tech offer at Amazon. The L6 comp band starts at 250k.
    Jan 19 0
  • Cisco LFUw31
    Following as I’m expecting an offer. Don’t want to get low balled.

    General question: are salaries in Seattle area less than Bay Area? Is that the reason why?
    Jan 19 6
    • Amazon jk361Dme
      Don’t think anyone is going to rescind an offer just because you asked for more money, as long as you do it professionally. In the worst case they would pass you on to another team if they have another candidate with similar interview performance and ready to accept.

      I would just give out the TC numbers you want to recruiter and wait for them to match it. Again, the best leverage is a competing offer.
      Jan 19
    • Cisco LFUw31
      Thanks @jk361Dme for your help! Really appreciate it!!
      Jan 19
  • Amazon UEUW26
    This is realistic for sde 2 and your experience
    Jan 19 0
  • Ironshore restapic#
    Looks less . Did you negotiate?My offer for L5 was 285k with competing offers
    Jan 19 8
    • Ironshore restapic#
      I have 13 yoe . I had absolutely no exp in tech stack the team is working on so they down leveled me to L5
      Jan 19
    • Akamai Technologies sso33
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      13 YOE, also considering you were down leveled from L6, 285 makes sense. For me, assuming 240 is the tail end of L5 and 250 is where it overlaps with L6; 250 would be a reasonable max.
      Jan 19
  • Akamai Technologies
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    I would stall amazon. Try to sit on that offer as long as possible. Go out and crack Microsoft, sales force, and LinkedIn. Then go back to amazon with offers in hand. Start a bidding war and I think you can bring your package to the high 200s. These other companies will easily and willingly compete and beat that amazon 230k offer if you crack the sh*t out of their interview.
    Jan 19 0
  • New bslty
    I thought YOE 1-15 are all SDE2 or less and YOE 15 or more will be SDE3 or Principal..etc at Amazon. Isn’t that right?

    And also not all L5 pays are equal - depends on the team and also the need for that position.
    Jan 19 4
    • Akamai Technologies
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      This is bullshit info
      Jan 20
    • Amazon BananaBro
      Your post is bullshit. Can you expand? Maybe try correcting the things you disagree with? Tell me, Akamai, how things work at my company, please. 🙄
      Jan 20
  • Akamai Technologies
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    I added my 401k Match and daycare subsidy to my tc to make my penis appear just a little bit longer
    Jan 20 0
  • Akamai Technologies sso33
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    Also, everyone: another question: who determines the TTC number? VP? Hiring manager? Both?
    Jan 19 5
    • Amazon yuh65h7
      SDE2 is a hard profile to fill, so you have room for sure. They will push back and tell you things like
      you likely won’t get a raise in year 1, and that refreshed and raises you do get will be lower in the future. Which are both valid points. If you value seeing an increase in your TC every year. If you want to get as much money as possible up front and don’t care about future increases, ask for more than you think you can get and let them meet you in the middle
      Jan 20
    • Akamai Technologies
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      I suggest he maximizes near term cash. The hell with raises. If he wants a raise he can go work for zuck in a year or 2
      Jan 20