Google L4 offer seattle

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foodlover
Nov 19, 2021 12 Comments

Hi everyone, my partner just gets an offer from google. But she can not decide whether she want to take it or leave it. She keep asks for my opinions and I am not in tech industry. Any suggestions and advices will be really appreciated!

Background:
CS master degree
4 YOE
Seattle based

She currently works at Microsoft azure for almost 2 years.

Her current package Microsoft 61 :
Base: 145K
Sign on : 40k( split into 2 years)
Stock: 120k (she joined Microsoft during the stock crash, so she has about 880 shares in total)
Bonus: 10%
Annual raise:5%
Seattle based office, not required go back to office until next year.

Google L4 offer:
Base: 151k
Sign on : 0
Stock : 371K
Bonus : 15%
Team based in Sunnyvale. but allow her to continue stay and fully remote work from Seattle.

She interviewed google 1 year ago, but did not pass through team match and google HR just reached out to her a couple month ago for a new round of team match, so she got the job offer without any interview rounds.

2 main reasons why she want to choose google:
1. She really like google’s team, said she can use c++ or something like that during work and it can helps her future career development.
2. She said google can offer better Work life balance, so she can have more spare time to do things she likes( she was not able to spend a lot of time on her hobbies due to long working hours from azure)

2 main reasons why she hesitate:
1. If she choose to join google, she have to return 2nd year sign on bonus from Microsoft. ( 20k) Since she joined the team around early March. And google wants her to start around early January
2. She said her boss promised to promote her from 61 to 62 by the end of this year, and if she goes to google. She has to climb the ladder all over again.

She also said money is not the most important thing, but it is a huge bonus.

I said I will support her no matter what her decision is, and I just want her to be happy.

I will love to heard any advice and suggestions from people who actually work with the tech

Thank you!

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  • TikTok
    oemvz

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    oemvz
    Google offer is valid for a year, that’s another option
    Nov 19, 2021 4
  • Google
    NaAS64

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    NaAS64
    If she can explain the recruiter she will need to return the sign on bonus if she does start in January I am sure the recruiter will either:
    1- improve the offer by 20k; or
    2- postpone the date so she doesn’t have to return the sign on bonus

    Having worked at Microsoft in the past, and working at Google now…I would choose Google over Microsoft anytime without even second thinking about it.

    Search for Stock refreshers at Google vs Stock refreshers at Microsoft and the difference is Night and Day

    WLB at Google, although it is team dependent, is generally much better than Microsoft on average
    Nov 19, 2021 1
    • Zulily
      foodlover

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      foodlover
      OP
      Thanks for the reply. I think she already told HR about it. Unfortunately the offer is final and max, can not increase more. The best they can do is move the forth year share to first year. And Hr did not give a clear response on whether if she can push her start date til March. Maybe the start date need to discuss and decide by hiring manager? She also need h1b transfer, I think that process will also need take at least a couple of weeks to complete.
      Nov 19, 2021
  • Any kids? I would choose Google. Microsoft stock is worth about 70k annually, right? So Google provides more money and it's wlb is world famous. What can you complain. Level means nothing if TC is lower. Team based in Sunnyvale is not ideal for the career development. But you can always change to a different group based in Seattle
    Nov 19, 2021 1
    • Zulily
      foodlover

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      foodlover
      OP
      Thanks for the reply, we just bought a house in Seattle and trying for kids now. Hopefully it will happen in the next couple years. And google said that in the future she may need to travel to Sunnyvale office a couple time per year. she is fine with it. I am not quite familiar with team switch within google. But good to know there is another backup option for the future
      Nov 19, 2021
  • Just my 2 cents, recently made similar switch - WLB is highly team dependent . So make sure she’s frank with her new team about what she’s getting into.
    Also Ask yourself, how much more can she make staying at Microsoft compared to this L4 offer
    Nov 19, 2021 1
    • Zulily
      foodlover

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      foodlover
      OP
      Thanks for the reply, I think google’s offer is about 18% more than her current salary from Microsoft. She told me the promotion and raise in Microsoft are peanuts so won’t be that much.
      Nov 19, 2021
  • Amazon
    mmmrrr!

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    mmmrrr!
    371K stock for L4. Thats huge!
    Dec 6, 2021 0