I got a first offer from JUUL for a Senior Front-end Software Engineer position. Yoe: 6. This is a verbal offer for now: Base 170K / Bonus 20% . We still didn't talk about signing bonus and RSU but it will be part of the next conversation. My issue is that my current base is 180K now but less bonus. I was expected a bump for my base but... nop... What do you think?
If they give you unlimited Juul pods, I'd consider it
Wtf is JUUL a tech company? Seriously, senior front end engineer? Why can’t they just SaaS a front end??
Who cares if they are a tech company or not as long as they pay good money.
And kill kids in the process ?
They’ll almost definitely match base if you ask for it, and 20% bonus is great. Let us know how much equity they give!
What was interview like? I am in process too
How much is your soul worth?
Facebook will pay for more if you just want to trick kids into getting addicted to cigarettes
Congratulations on your offer! Not bad pay for creating a product that addicts and kills people and has reignited the nearly dead teenage smoking industry!
Juul is against underage vaping. The technology we use is not as high tech as autonomous cars, but enough to put a lock on our devices so that underage people can’t sneak puffs. We have mobile app that will help users track how much nicotine they’ve been consuming. When predictive technology is mature we’ll be able to provide more insight to help people quit. We also go after vendors who sell our products without checking age, online and off line. Our 6 ingredients in the nicotine oil are all labeled on our products, you can look them up, they’re all usual ingredients that we consume through food and drinks all the time.
Juul is against underage smoking like Facebook is against too much screen time for kids. You know what would prevent underage vaping? Not selling it. Go do something worthwhile with your skills.
I am doing something worthwhile. Going from cigarettes to smokeless vapor brings a huge improvement to smokers’ lives and the smoke causes 10+ kinds of known cancer. The reason people keep going back to it is because it’s extremely hard to quit. juul is an alternative o smoking like kombucha to alcohol for a lack of thoughtful analogy. I understand most people were only thinking about underage users. That’s why Juul stopped selling candy flavors in retail because we can enforce age verification more strict online. All of our future products will enforce age verification and some will get GPS tracking. We are taking action to prevent underage usage.
Waiting for an offer myself.. did you get a final offer yet?
Yeap, I finnally got 180k + 20% bonus + 15k sign on bonus + 720RSU over 4years with one year cliff. What about you ? and for which role ?
Hey still waiting for an offer.. but role is supply Chain manager. Expecting along the lines of 150-170k base, 20% bonus, rsu 180-200k. Any tips on the negotiation with Juul?
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You can make a strong argument to match your current base. Bonus could be variable and is not substitutable for guaranteed base salary.
I effectively would expect a very minimum of my current base. I already tried to push a bit more. I will see the result.
They won’t lose you for $10K. Play hard to get. And also explain the mental weight of feeling like you’re taking a step down from current base. Don’t play into their argument of ‘effective’ compensation (matched through bonus and RSUs which are not liquid). Explain to hiring manager directly.