Jobs moving out to Canada!
TL;DR `Toronto added more tech jobs than Seattle, Washington D.C., and the “Bay Area” combined` 🤐. Current government is failing to handle the issues with h1b properly. Steps taken by current government is effecting even companies of FAANG. Now, the result is h1bs taking their jobs with them to other countries. If this continues to happen it would be a big blow to Americans especially with current rate of new graduates in US. Eventually, I see this hitting Americans a lot than h1bs, as h1bs have an option to move to other country or their home country. https://insights.dice.com/2019/03/25/h-1b-hiring-moving-jobs-canada/amp/
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Ehhh
I doubt this is accurate. Also Trump mentioned he wants to reform the US immigration system towards merit based like Canada.
Lol they pay peanuts . I have few Canadian citizens working with me moved here from Canada with 2 kids . No one moves from Bay Area to Canada
No one moves voluntarily. But if your H1 faces issues , then you would prefer to move to Canada than to India or Latam
Well, I moved from Canada to here and I'll move back. Life is better in Canada. Pay is less. But after five or six years working in the US and you have your core savings in place, home paid off, enough in 401k/stock that it'll compound to what you'll need in retirement. At that point go back to the better life in Canada and work because it's interesting and spend 100% of your income cuz you already covered savings.
But it is mighty cold even in Toronto. Only livable place I could see is Vancouver (or rather few cities in B.C.) . Cost of living is damn crazy in B.C. Let me know if there are better options. I wouldn't want to be confined home for 8 out of 12 months
The folks who are moving are those who don't want to be confined to visa and get sucked and lose their soul.
No one really wants to move there but they’re forced to because of nonsensical visa issues. America still has huge pulling power but they need to get their act together at some point before Canada / other European tech hubs start becoming viable alternatives to people who can work in the US but still don’t want to deal with the broken immigration system.
Pay sucks, I as an H1B holder myself think these reports are exaggerated Considering that those are more backup options for the US, the US can anyday change their visa policies and get all the immigrants and jobs back.
Company would give you good incentives to move there through pay if they save more because of legal / immigration procedures
Interesting... but why aren't these jobs going to India if the talent is mostly from India? Why Canada? I think articles like this are designed to feed into a confirmation bias "US immigration bad" rather than paint a comprehensive picture. An article recently showed that FANG companies received 99% h1b approvals while WITCH companies suffered the most rejections. Is this move to Canada because of the difficulties of wipro and co in getting visas? Secondly, h1b is not the only way company's can get overseas talent. There's L1 and there's green card directly. So what's all the hullabaloo around h1b? It's all well and good to say Toronto added more jobs than Seattle, SF said etc combined but from what base point? It's like saying Rwanda experienced higher economic growth rates than Germany, but would that mean Rwanda automatically is set to have a stronger economy than Germany? These articles are designed to work best in an echo chamber like Blind.
They're moving to India as well. India's economy is being projected to overtake US economy in 15 years.
Overtake in what sense? GDP? That's not going to happen in 15 years. At 1. Billion India has a GDP of 2.5T, US is 19 T. Do you reckon tech jobs will close the gap? Growth? India already has a very high growth rate. PPP? Not likely. Gdp per head? This is very important because that speaks to individual prosperity, to be half of the US gpd per India would have to grow its current GDP by 25 times. What reasonable metrics can you use to say India will overtake US?
I have an Ivy League PhD and my H1B recently got rejected. This article is spot on.
The mainstream media and media and their emotive stories. It ticks me off because there is a reason US is US, and Canada is Canada... at this point in history. And it's not because of h1b. The problem is this writer is looking for a story that fits in with the current narrative. US immigration bad, Canada immigration good. Without looking at the nuances behind the narrative. Finally, what's wrong with Canada growing it's tech industry? Can't Canada's gain also be US's gain? This zero sum point of view is just not how the world works.
It is pretty zero sum rn because the only reason the Canadian tech industry is growing is because the US is losing those jobs. There isn’t an organic demand for tech in Canada, there’s a ton of demand in the US and Canada is absorbing a little bit of it because the US apparently isn’t interested in free taxes from high paying jobs.
Am in H1b and I don’t think your analysis is true