Just accepted a Google low ball

Aug 2, 2019 93 Comments

Fresh PhD (6 months of exp) got an offer with
140k base
150k/4 stock
25k sign up bonus

Bay area L4

It seems that a number of phds are getting these types of offers based on levelsfyi...

Feel bad and happy, happy to go to Google but bitter about the TC, I feel demotivated already 😔

I'm thinking about my next jump already


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TOP 93 Comments
  • Be grateful to get 200k+ TC with only 6 months experience..you probably should have gotten less
    Aug 2, 2019 13
    • Facebook icdN16
      PhD gets counted as ~3yrs work ex. Don't listen to the idiots here telling you to be grateful for a lowball offer. You were lowballed.
      Sep 12, 2019
    • Yeah I heard in another thread of 300k PhD offers but it was for Research Scientist.
      Sep 12, 2019
  • Microsoft heydug
    You still only have 6 months experience. If it was that bad, you wouldn't have taken it. You have to start somewhere, so forget it and move on.
    Aug 3, 2019 4
    • The job actually relates to my area. if there is a good meritocracy at Google I've confidence that I'll nail it but I just want to pass this initial disappointment
      Aug 3, 2019
    • Google parmesan
      I think someone is about to find out about the real world the hard way
      Aug 3, 2019
  • Ok I have a theory.

    Since tech salaries have jumped like crazy in the past 7-8 years, lots of folks decided to pursue this lucrative career path.

    So now, we have an influx of fresh grads of all educational levels. All competing for a limited number of entry-level jobs.

    You’re the second person to post recently with a PhD who got lowballed by Google. Recent or fresh grad. So, probably not a coincidence I think.
    Aug 3, 2019 9
    • Uber. Friends at G
      Aug 3, 2019
    • Amazon аlv
      It’s also a supply and demand situation. If they don’t have headcount for L3 and L4 why pay extra for them?
      Aug 3, 2019
  • Facebook Johny Cage
    PhD or not end of the day your just a code monkey for them. Slog it out like the 70k other Google insects working there or join a smaller company that truly values your skills.
    Aug 2, 2019 3
    • Uber / Eng #muga
      Not doing anything is much better than declining
      Aug 3, 2019
    • I feel you
      Aug 3, 2019
  • SolarWinds AnEngineer
    OMG the entitlement. It burns.
    Aug 3, 2019 2
    • HealthChannels / Project txdi
      I was trying to be nice but feel the exact same way.
      Aug 3, 2019
    • Facebook icdN16
      Knowing your market value is NOT entitlement.
      Glad to see it burns though.
      Sep 12, 2019
  • New / Mgmt

    New Mgmt

    Former National Political Consultant, left industry, went to help friends. went from High 6 Figure Salary, to dealing with 21-23yo "Executives" bleeding me dry.
    Totally New Here, but I will say, I generally always low-ball the initial offer, esp if they didn't name their expectation of salary upfront.
    Most have said solid responses - I feel the only lacking is the negotiation, you don't have to accept you can always ask for more and say why you were worth it.
    Since you already accepted that's not an option anymore.
    My advice honestly is outperform everyone around you, take the extra work, make sure your scrum manager/ management knows your name - generally offering help and solving problems for them.
    I have given out raises after first 60-90days if they have proven value and budget shows I can.
    Aug 3, 2019 7
    • That's why people prefer switching places rather than asking for more...it's tough to ask
      Aug 3, 2019
    • New / Strategy

      New Strategy

      Former National Political Consultant, left industry, went to help friends. went from High 6 Figure Salary, to dealing with 21-23yo "Executives" bleeding me dry.
      Well if it was easy everyone would do it. Maybe that should be my new career helping people as nerdy as myself learn to make the ask
      Aug 3, 2019
  • New duudjj
    No worries. After one year or two just make a switch. You’ll double your TC
    Aug 2, 2019 3
    • Dell LUHV04
      Which companies will offer double tc ?
      Aug 3, 2019
    • Facebook / Eng tuker
      FB will crush this offer at L4
      Aug 3, 2019
  • Google CWCv66
    Makes $20k year for 8 years... Complains that his first real job offer is 10x that.

    Aug 3, 2019 0
  • Amazon yowsers
    This is not a lowball at all. You have less than a year of professional experience. Experience is much more valuable than education. Sorry bro.
    Aug 3, 2019 4
    • Oracle djjdhbw
      Obviously that is your opinion, not the company’s. Don’t be so arrogant and just learn from other senior people.
      Aug 3, 2019
    • Amazon yowsers
      Aug 4, 2019
  • New / Eng

    New Eng

    I'd love that kind of $$ and I am your age, so I'd be grateful if I was you - besides with a PhD I am sure you'll have a very amazing career soon enough
    Aug 3, 2019 0


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