Stay Amazon L5 or go for Meta E5

Amazon / IT
veSO44

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Symantec
veSO44
Mar 22 14 Comments

Solve more problems get to L6 in year or jump ship to Meta?

Concerns to jump: rebuild trust, learn new language, tech stack, show impact, build network . Also hear WLB is pretty bad at Meta but benefits are good.

vs work on bigger scope problems and happy with wlb, managers. Although the space i am working on is not that interesting but that is fine.

I am hard working engineer, won’t say I am smartest in the room though so it takes time to get familiar with tech stack.

I am curious to hear from folks who joined Meta as E5.

Tc 400 -same at A and M

Assume Amazon will match Meta

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TOP 14 Comments
  • Meta
    17oiyt

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    17oiyt
    Poll and I would stay at amazon (saying as an ex-amazon) if no diff in πŸ’°
    Mar 22 1
    • New
      lmao_amzn

      New

      lmao_amzn
      Could you explain what your thought process is in staying?
      Mar 22
  • Amazon / IT
    veSO44

    Go to company page Amazon IT

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    Symantec
    veSO44
    OP
    Meta
    Apr 1 4
  • Meta / Eng
    codefishy

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    Amazon
    codefishy
    WLB is very team dependent. My WLB at Amazon was way worse. Meta has better perks than Amazon. The allowed ramp up time at meta is a few months. They also have a one month boot camp to teach you the tools. Most teams at Facebook are bottoms up. This means you decide what to work on. It's a bit weird at first because, you need to find stuff to do. However, I really like it.

    That being said, jumping teams is always a gamble. Shitty teams exist at every company. Also, It's possible to get E6 in a year but, most people who try for E6 get it in 2.
    Mar 22 2
    • Amazon / IT
      veSO44

      Go to company page Amazon IT

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      Symantec
      veSO44
      OP
      Not thinking about E6 as the blogs I read for engineering are a way larger in scope than the skillset i have.
      That bottom culture shift is the also a part that worries me a little but it must be with a lot of amazonians.
      Mar 22
    • Meta / Eng
      codefishy

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      Amazon
      codefishy
      Here's how bottoms up works on my team. The manager lists the top priorities for the org. The manager and other engineers pitch ideas for the team and try and get people to help with those ideas. It's up to you to volunteer to help work on those ideas or work on your own ideas. Your manager becomes an advisor. They will not force you to work on a single project but may strongly advise you to focus on a project.

      We recently changed to performance reviews once a year. I'm not sure how that affects pip. It used to be you needed to have 2 bad ratings to get a pip.
      Mar 22
  • Amazon
    deadwind

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    deadwind
    OP, I was in a similar situation, but chose to stay because of visa related complications. If visa isn’t a concern for you, you should not hesitate to change the job just because the change scares you. Now if you have other reasons, you can use the Meta offer to secure a Dive and Save.
    Mar 22 1
  • Amazon
    hbIS87

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    hbIS87
    What was your decision?
    Apr 1 0