AWS vs Amazon Levels

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Dec 23, 2017 23 Comments

Is leveling consistent within AWS and Amazon?

Specifically, levels.fyi implies that Amazon levels up from Facebook and Google.

AWS claims the opposite. And the seniority of folks I’m seeing seems to confirm that.

One issue is that Amazon seems to have a huge range within L7 (I have an offer as a L7 PM).

So I’m just curious if others find the leveling comparison with peers to be inaccurate...

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  • Amazon
    lollo

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    lollo
    No, AWS is 1-2 level below retail
    Dec 23, 2017 2
  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

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     Hooliganss
    Levels are same across the company. Hiring bar is higher on average in AWS
    Dec 23, 2017 3
  • Amazon / Eng
    HNls87

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     HNls87
    Hiring bar seems to be slightly lower in AWS. I’m an SDE 2 in retail, so far every other SDE2 I knew personally that moved to AWS was promoted to 3 at the next promo cycle. Thinking about it myself
    Dec 23, 2017 1
    • Amazon
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      There are some bad teams in AWS at the same time it's less politics, so it depends heavily on team to team. As per the hiring bar, it's well known fact that AWS has higher hiring bar than retail. Even some hr folks openly admit that! But based on my experience, I'd say it's same.
      Dec 23, 2017
  • Amazon
    amzn11

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    amzn11
    The hiring bar is the same across teams at Amazon. That’s is the exact purpose of the bar raiser. I’ve BRed for AWS and many other tech teams and I can assure you we don’t evaluate a candidate differently because its an AWS role, or retail, etc. There may be pockets in a remote site or small team that have less experienced BRs or some other anomaly that compromised the company wide bar, but that would not persist at the level of a whole org like AWS. This is one area we do better than most comparable companies.
    Dec 23, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Design
    MiddleWest

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     MiddleWest
    Theoretically the bar should be the same between Amazon and AWS, to echo amzn11. And that bar should always be getting higher.

    Practically however, I don’t know. With my AWS team, I like and respect 100% of the people I work with. Some processes are a little looser in AWS than in retail, but it all works. I was sorely unimpressed with my retail team and org but that was just one division, so I can’t say definitively that it’s worse overall.

    Amongst L7’s, I’m really impressed with the AWS product managers and senior managers, and SDMs. I know more than a few vacant and delusional L7’s in retail but I assume they’re an exception.
    Dec 24, 2017 0