CompensationJun 5, 2019
IntelVDqO76

L5 Google offer

I got an L5 google offer in Mountain View. Please let me know if this is a good offer or not? TC: $380,500 first year Base: $170K Bonus: 15% ($25.5K) Equity: $540K Sign on: $50K PhD in computer vision and deep learning Yoe: ~6 years: 3.5 after PhD, 2+ before

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VMware lawl Jun 5, 2019

Good lord 😯

Intel BOBBY_AXE Jun 5, 2019

<30yo + TC$380k = winning the game

VMware lawl Jun 5, 2019

I doubt OP is under 30. PhD + 6 YOE would be 32 best case scenario right?

Ciena Monk6 Jun 5, 2019

Most people will get depressed on your TC 😭. Including myself

Google frSU26 Jun 5, 2019

I feel like you could get more equity though probably you need a competing offer.

Intel VDqO76 OP Jun 5, 2019

I had a competing offer from Amazon with TC $367K. Google came up with these numbers to match that. Do you think they should have added more?

Google frSU26 Jun 5, 2019

In any case it's a good offer - congrats! What org? Rmi?

Amazon nowlb Jun 5, 2019

Flex spotted.

Bloomberg balerophon Jun 5, 2019

Check levels.fyi too

Intel VDqO76 OP Jun 5, 2019

I did. The max of Google L5 in levels.fyi is 450K. My offer looks like an avg.

Google bchtro Jun 5, 2019

Sounds about average. Not great and not low balled. Could do better with competing offers from FAAN.

Intel VDqO76 OP Jun 5, 2019

That's what I feel too. I had a competing offer from Amazon.

Google bchtro Jun 5, 2019

Something to take into account, G no longer giving refreshes till 2nd year which makes initial offer even more important!

Cadence luna. Jun 5, 2019

A small note.. Your TC is 330k... the 50k first year is not a TC factor per se.. maybe if you divide by 4. Solid L5 offer btw.

Intel VDqO76 OP Jun 5, 2019

That's right! I think refreshers will compensate for that starting second year onward?!

Cadence luna. Jun 5, 2019

Agreed... third year though .. they are refreshing starting 2nd year so vesting starts 3rd year ...

Apple Icml2017 Jun 5, 2019

I think it’s a decent but perhaps not the most stellar offer. A colleague of mine with very similar background and experience as yours got a L5 offer (Computer vision role in AR) in the ballpark of 180-190K base and close to 600K RSUs (I don’t know the exact numbers). So perhaps there is some (but not significant) room for improvement for both base and RSUs.

Intel VDqO76 OP Jun 5, 2019

Got it! Thank you!

Microsoft Ytcc6 Jun 5, 2019

This is a decent offer. Afaik, around/slightly higher than the medians for T5s offers. T5 is a pretty wide band at Google (~5-~15 yoe is typical). Financially it is also wide, overlapping with T4 and T6. Depending on your case, they may match your highest offer, or simply refuse to move the needle no matter how many offers you bring (I have seen both cases). Good luck.

Intel CoryP Jun 5, 2019

Nice, this is awesome