L6 swe offers: G, F

May 2, 2019 82 Comments

Google: cloud org
Base: 210k
Bonus: 20% target
Rsu: 950k (monthly vest for 4yrs)
Sign on 100k

Facebook: data infra
Base: 220k
Bonus 20% target
Rsu: 920k (no cliff, 4yrs vesting)
Sign on 100k

Both bay area (Sunnyvale & Menlo park). 14 yoe.

Both companies have said the offer is "final", not willing to budge further. Both are close enough any way. Have couple other offers in hand but I'm considering only these 2.

Which one should I take?

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  • Google bogleheads
    20 votes for Google, 4 for FB so far. Answer seems obvious!

    P.S. that's an amazing comp, congrats!
    May 2, 2019 16
    • WLB seems to be the main downside of working at FB compared to Google
      May 3, 2019
    • Facebook / Eng @wazza
      Xoogler here. Don’t drink the koolaid. FB is leaps and bounds better environment but you do need to pick a good team. Google is too big and too many chill people who are not pushing themselves enough and think clearing the bar is all they have to do. If you don’t want to keep growing, go Google of course.
      May 5, 2019
  • LinkedIn chandu .
    OP
    Regarding interview: it was total 6 on-site interviews. 3 focused on coding, 2 on design and 1 behavioral.

    For design I didn't have to prepare too much since I've worked in distributed systems for most of my 14+ years career and have a good intuition for design. Nevertheless I used "cracking the system design interview" course to get some structure so I can get the right things covered in 45 minutes.

    Coding, there is no escaping leetcode imo. I got mostly medium-high difficulty questions, 1 interviewer asked 2 questions, the rest asked 1 and then spent time in follow up questions on the same problem.

    Behavioral was the usual what-ifs questions on resolving conflict on technical decision, giving feedback to a colleague not doing well, mentoring etc.
    May 2, 2019 2
    • Amazon cnnfox
      Will any people be reporting to you or you’ll be pure IC?
      May 15, 2019
    • Google / Eng
      cracha

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      crachamore
      OP, Can you share the link to "Cracking the system design" course?.. is this the one by educative.io ?
      Jun 11, 2019
  • Apple Eddi
    Troll
    May 2, 2019 3
    • Flagged by the community.

    • LinkedIn chandu .
      OP
      I will do that if I'm around after 2 months 😂
      May 2, 2019
  • Google compquest
    You better have 3 yoe for offer like that.
    May 2, 2019 1
    • LinkedIn chandu .
      OP
      14. Added to main post
      May 2, 2019
  • Google housie
    Congrats on great offers! 13yoe, got similar offer (bit less) for L5 Last year. Realized later should have requested for L6 interviews.
    Been at Facebook too before. For your offers, comp/level being almost same - choose FB if you like chaos environment, choose Google if you like more laid back and organized culture.
    Not going to be easy on either to get promoted to L7, focus on trying to shine at L6.
    All the best, and don't worry - between the two, it's not going to be bad decision any way you choose!
    May 2, 2019 2
    • LinkedIn chandu .
      OP
      Thanks. Google cloud I've heard it's also as chaotic as Facebook. What part of G do you work at?
      May 2, 2019
    • Google
      AIMLOK

      Google

      BIO
      I once served 5TB
      AIMLOKmore
      Google cloud will depend on which team. New teams that were built from the ground up are probably more chaotic than legacy teams that came from and are still partially technical infrastructure/core services.

      Facebook and Google are very similar. Facebook is more like a young Google, in mind/body/practices. Same general culture though. Some things are basically parallel universe versions of Google, built by ex-Googlers. Some things are behind Google in terms of robust engineering infra and Dev tools. That being said, Googlers are notorious for over complicating, and sometimes over engineering, things. Sometimes it's warranted, more often it feels like not.

      Both are great places. Congrats.
      May 3, 2019
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    • LinkedIn chandu .
      OP
      Added to main post
      May 2, 2019
  • Amazon 22/7
    Current LI level? Are you a manager or IC?
    May 2, 2019 9
    • VMware / Eng zxzam
      Op, if you are going to work primarily on k8s, it might be golang.
      May 3, 2019
    • Amazon 22/7
      So, you used Java in G coding interviews?
      May 3, 2019
  • VMware / Eng zxzam
    Good offers. Congratulations!

    Ask for $225K base and $1M RSU from both. Pick G.

    Are you in storage or networking infra?
    May 2, 2019 1
    • LinkedIn chandu .
      OP
      Those offer r final, I'm quite sure they won't budge further. It'd be nice to have an extra 50k rsu, but I don't think it'll happen in my case. After lots of back and forth they've both told it's their final offer.

      I'm in neither, my team is kubernetes (don't think it falls in storage org).
      May 2, 2019
  • Amazon yhagayavaj
    Google
    May 2, 2019 0
  • Uber G6GK32
    What do you mean by “no cliff”?
    May 2, 2019 5
    • Microsoft /More/$$$$
      MS has 1 year cliff with $2k vesting after first year. They make you wait for that $2k lmaooo
      May 3, 2019
    • Uber UFHRCJ
      I thought google rsus don’t start vesting until after 1 year.
      May 3, 2019

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