Remote Designer 2.5YOE ($75k) feeling stagnant. Time to move on?

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SSFV

New Design

SSFV
Dec 2, 2021 11 Comments

I’m the only designer at a small dev agency. I love my team and they’re very supportive of my growth but I have no design mentors here to learn from and it seems like this company doesn’t really value or prioritize good user experience. (I’ve been there about 2yrs)

I barely put in a fraction of full time hours, but working remote means I can use the extra time to self teach, take classes, or get other part time remote jobs. I’ve been doing a part time SDE bootcamp to fill my time and boost my skills. (Company is paying for this!)

I wanted to use the remote work + too much free time opportunity to travel and live abroad but pandemic is still making that difficult.

What’s my best shot at doubling my TC?? What skills should I be self-teaching? What kind of mentors should I be looking for? Should I explore additional part time roles or is it time to ditch this company and move on? Should I travel first and then look for new work? HELP!

Age: 25
YOE: 2.5
Net worth: $127k
TC: $75k

#design #ui/ux #uxdesigner #productdesign #remote #remotework #travel #designcareer

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  • New / Design
    getHooli

    New Design

    PRE
    Facebook, Uber, Meta
    BIO
    12 YOE
    getHooli
    YOE: 12, TC: 250

    Find a design team you can work with. Designers should never work alone.

    Here’s what I recommend:
    - position yourself as a Product Designer (learn the business and product strategy side)
    - do side projects that require coding
    - become a Product Designer Who Codes (a unicorn)

    How to decide what to focus on: practice doing all aspects of the PD and PM roles. Write PRDs, write research plans, write research interview questions, write product road maps, write information architecture outlines. Make customer journey maps. Read about research methodologies. Make wireframes. Do the craft of visual pixel design.

    Read about accessibility. Read about usability (Nielsen Norman Group). Learn how to code accessibility into products, e.g. ARIA tags. Research, accessibility and usability must drive design.

    After you have tried all aspects, select the ones you enjoy doing most.

    Pair programming is a great way to work, either you as designer paired with an engineer to build something in real time, or two eng, or two designers.

    As a product designer at Uber, my TC peaked at $360. Not exactly proud that I worked at two “evil corporations” (FB, Uber), but I learned a lot about what it means to be productive and to be professional. I’m currently taking a risk on a startup as design director.
    Dec 7, 2021 2
    • New / Design
      cp3onmtv

      New Design

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      Kroger
      BIO
      Designer with 10+ years in the printing industry. Looking to transition into UX/UI design!
      cp3onmtv
      Considering your years of experience you’d still say a product designer that knows how to code is still rare?? I’m a graphic design (10 YOE) making a switch to UX/ui and I wanted to learn code (I like it) to further differentiate. I got some mixed reviews on that though since I’m trying to secure my first gig
      Dec 7, 2021
    • New / Design
      getHooli

      New Design

      PRE
      Facebook, Uber, Meta
      BIO
      12 YOE
      getHooli
      Among senior designers it’s more common. Among junior / college grads, I don’t see a ton of people who actively code.

      It’s a good secret skill to have. i.e. don’t mention it when interviewing. Once you’re in, start fixing neglected bugs in the front end. People are like 👀
      Dec 8, 2021
  • What kinda work are you doing in your day-to-day? Actual UX tasks? 75.5k for 2-years exp is more than a lot of people get.

    You need more experience to double your comp. So, maybe move to an enterprise type of company to gain the experience needed to start doubling your income.

    I didn’t see large increases in comp til I hit 4-5 years plus.
    Dec 2, 2021 4
    • New / Design
      SSFV

      New Design

      SSFV
      OP
      You’re right, it’s all UI. I’ve tried to put processes in place for better UX but there hasn’t been any time and very little buy in from managers.

      We don’t do any research here, we execute on first drafts, and largely just implement exactly what clients tells us to do. (Government products be like that). Fingers crossed that we’ll get some new contracts which might allow us to do better product work but not guaranteed. Even if that’s the case, I’m a design team of one. My front-end-development manager is the only one who was willing to do any UX exercises with me. Honestly I just feel like this job is way too large for one person and advocating for a better design process has been a losing battle from day one.

      Is this holding me back? Am I not gaining the experience I need to move up later?
      Dec 2, 2021
    • There’s a book out there called a design team of one, if memory serves me directly. I can’t add what value it is, but maybe see if it’s worth the read / buy.

      You’re definitely doing many people’s jobs, which are roles I avoid entirely. The worst are that ask for you to be a dev, UI designer, UX designer, visual designer, researcher, director and / or VP.

      See how you can influence the team to get more serious about user experience, though you’re at the helm of the client. That’s why I work on that side versus agency. That involves influencing stakeholders, etc. which is a senior plus skillet generally speaking that one acquires from learning, failing, etc. That’s life.

      Those are some of the skills that would help double your TC.

      To answer your last question: I’m not sure. I don’t know your background enough to know, but try connecting with folks who you’d want to work under on LinkedIn, etc.

      I will say that you trying to double your TC with < 5-years experience isn’t the norm. Again, plenty of title inflation out there.
      Dec 3, 2021
  • New / Design
    mgrundis

    New Design

    PRE
    Kroger
    BIO
    Designer with 10+ years in the printing industry. Looking to transition into UX/UI design!
    mgrundis
    Sounds like a sweet spot to me. I’m currently transitioning to UX from 10 years in another field, you’re making double my salary at 1/4 my exeperience PLUS you get to stay home and learn on the side (free). You didn’t mention anyone to take care of other then yourself so frankly if I were you I would stay at least another year. Spend your “free time” to stay on your own case and really LEARN something though, put yourself out there to do real projects with what you’re learning otherwise this is pointless. I’ve heard the first ui/UX job is the hardest to get and you’ve done that already so...sky is the limit really. When it’s really time to jump ship, you’ll know! Trust me.
    Dec 3, 2021 2
    • New / Design
      SSFV

      New Design

      SSFV
      OP
      Really helpful to see this perspective. Thanks.

      My concern is that I’m not getting a lot of support in the UX space, but we’ve got a lot of smart engineers and product people who are helping me learn more about that side of things which can’t hurt. You think if I start to take on some more front-end css library work at this company, it’ll be relevant experience when looking for my next UX role?
      Dec 3, 2021
    • New / Design
      mgrundis

      New Design

      PRE
      Kroger
      BIO
      Designer with 10+ years in the printing industry. Looking to transition into UX/UI design!
      mgrundis
      As someone just moving into this with a graphic design background, my research on this field is telling me that UX Research is really what you need to know, (I’m confident on the UI part of things) and that’s really hard to do on your own with no real projects. So if your company is coming around to this, even slowly, I would absolutely soak up everything you can while you actually have a “team”. I too wondered if I should also learn some front end dev as I enjoyed coding back in college, but the overall consensus I grabbed from others is that being able to explain WHY you made a design decision and being able to base that on user research is much better than fancy designs or being familiar with a million other things. If you like to code, and can learn it on your current companies dime, please do that! Those types of freebies didn’t exist when I was coming up and I’m only a handful of years older than you. Don’t be blinded by the ppl on this app making 500k and a 1mil more in stocks, it sounds to me that although you’re close, you’ve not *fully* outgrown this company yet. There are still opportunities to learn. I reached my peak in what could be learned at least 5 years ago. Tech isn’t going anywhere, you’ve got time! If 6 months from now you feel sure there no more else to learn, start applying and give yourself the next 6 months to find the right company that will fill the gaps this one hasn’t.
      Dec 3, 2021