Leave Phoenix for the Bay/Seattle/Denver?

May 20, 2019 12 Comments

I currently have stalled a bit and all my new knowledge is gained from a lot online courses (andrew ng's course, going through R programming books, Intro to stat learning by Springer texts, etc) but use none of this knowledge in my job so it decays over time.

Amex is a retirement shop and everyone on my team is 55+. I'm well over 20 years younger than everyone. Upside is the job is cake and pays well + I can travel and work from other locations for fun.

Anyway, my TC is 150k in Phoenix ( 125 base 25 bonus) at Amex. The lack of intellectual curiosity is what bothers me the most.

(Also I do not know how to add the popcorn thing so just typed popcorn).

Thoughts?

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  • Microsoft tfsUEwWt
    Everyone in Seattle has a place in Scottsdale that they'd rather be at 9 months out of the year so what does that tell you?
    May 20, 2019 1
    • Nvidia cupofjoss
      To Airbnb in Scottsdale 😆
      May 21, 2019
  • American Express bugger!
    For me intellectual stimulation and good TC comes at the top of the list. I was at amex for a while and it was really boring. I left for amazon a year ago, haven't regretted it a bit.
    May 21, 2019 2
    • American Express uktg07
      Is the WLB as bad as they say? Can you work from home? How’s the maternity leave? An Amazon recruiter just reached out for the third time. First time, I almost got the gig but it went to someone else. Second time, I got a promo so I turned it down.
      May 27, 2019
    • American Express bugger!
      Really depends on the team. I pull productive 45 hours week. At amex it was like productive 20 hours week. Wfh depends on the team too. In my team twice in a month is fine. Don't know about maternity leave.
      May 27, 2019
  • YOE? What type of work?
    May 20, 2019 1
    • American Express D.BCooper
      OP
      8 yoe. Sql/r/viz work and an MBA. Sr mgr at Amex so I code myself and have 2 engineering resources. Bit of a hybrid role.
      May 21, 2019
  • Oracle CAFFEINE!
    🍿is an emoji
    May 20, 2019 0
  • American Express /dance
    I'm in a similar boat, the lack of engineering company wide is alarming.

    Unfortunately the engineering culture is poor everywhere at AMEX. The office culture is even worse, don't you dare have any fun or laugh or you'll get a nice complaint sent to your leader.

    There are some small pockets that try to do the right thing. They constantly get overrun by mismanagement, and unrealistic deadlines/promises. This stems from having underqualified leaders with no software expierence, lead and manage SWEs.

    Run away :)
    Aug 21, 2019 0
  • American Express blueboxer2
    Try switching teams. Go to mobile or web
    May 21, 2019 0
  • Nvidia creamcake
    Please no
    May 20, 2019 0
  • Arthrex QeWE06
    Bigger fish in small pond or smaller fish in bigger pond is the question. I'm in the same boat as you now. Experienced bay area life before this. Both have pros and cons. I miss the intellectual curiosity but definitely my mind is much relaxed with a slow pace environment. You could always learn anything online these days and have constructive conversation and travel different places to gain life experiences.
    May 20, 2019 0

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