Leaving Apple for another company
I’m an ICT4 at Apple been here 5yrs, base @160k, 280k unvested RSU. Considering an offer at 200k base, 200k RSU, plus a hire-on. I’d be way happier in the new role as I’ve been shopping around leaving my current team at Apple. Because of vesting schedules TC is lower in the new role for the first two years. Thoughts?
Can you negotiate with the new company to include the missing RSU so you don't get a pay cut?
I think this is a reasonable ask, TC is higher over 5 years at new job, but the first year without vesting stock will be lower.
I hate it when people end their posts and emails with ‘Thoughts?’
Your life must be fun if you hate a word
I hate myself too.
Sounds like an Amazon offer. Don’t do it.
It’s not amazon, it’s not FAANG
Yes it is. We know. Confess!
Where at? And is Apple wlb as bad as people say?
I’ve worked in Eddy’s and IS&T at Apple, WLB has never been an issue. I have friends in HWE who work 60-80hours a week. I love Apple as a company, I came here because I wanted to be at Apple. I’m leaving because I’m in a situation where my role changed significantly, my project was sunset in favor of traditional/manual processes. My post re-org role is garbage.
If you’re in the Biz Ops org under Eddy in Results Way - that organization is toxic and ran by one particularly horrible empire builder. I think you should follow where you find yourself feeling a bit more positive about life and work. If compensation will be higher anyways then there’s not much more to it. Apple is great but heavily dependent on the team and org and leadership that you interact with.
Ask them to match your comp. I recently left a higher comp job for a lower comp job in the first 2 years. Those years have been tough mentally. Make sure you're prepared for the hit if you do it
Do it if you know you'll be happier. Assuming you had other offers, or are picky about next role if you been shopping around for a while. Why the hesitation? Were you expecting way more money?
I believe I’ll be happier, better project work, interesting problems, potential career growth. Money isn’t off, it’s just hard to make the plunge knowing the first year or so will be leaner than staying put.
If u r not happy at ur current role, money is temporary.. U will make up for that by being happier 😉
I hate my current role; re-org ruined my job satisfaction.
Switch teams?