Offer evaluation (Expedia vs Twilio) - London

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JLGK02

New Eng

JLGK02
Jun 17, 2021 27 Comments

Hey,

I’m a new grad and was made an offer from Expedia a while ago. I kept doing interviews with other companies partly for practise and also hoping I’d get a much better offer.

Today Twilio got back to me with an offer (and apparently a strong hiring vote, whatever that means) and I wanted to see what Blind thinks of it compared to my original offer:

Expedia (already signed):
Salary: £51.5k
Relocation bonus: £2k
Other benefits: £800/year
RSU: $40k (2 year cliff, 50/25/25 paid yearly)
Pension: 3% + 6%
*TC = £54.3k (then £66.3k in year 2 due to RSU’s)*

Twilio:
Salary: £41.2k
WFH allowance (one-off): $500
Monthly benefits: £200 (+ £60 while working remotely)
RSU: $72k (1 year cliff, then paid quarterly)
Pension: 4.5% + 7%
*TC = £56.8k*

Holidays are the same (25 days) and both offer a range of benefits in exchange for salary (eg health insurance).

I told Twilio I had another offer, in the hopes they would have some space for negotiation but the recruiter told me that in the interest of fairness there is no negotiation for early careers at all. I queried whether RSU was negotiable even if salary was not, but that was rebuffed too. Is it worth bringing up with the hiring manager as opposed to the recruiter?

I should also mention that Twilio is a frontend role, all React and TypeScript. Whereas Expedia is a rotation (for grads) where I will do the first 6 months of AWS/Kubernetes stuff.

Thanks!

#tech #negotiateeoffer

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TOP 27 Comments
  • Puppet
    kraken2000

    Go to company page Puppet

    kraken2000
    Take Twilio. Think long term and not short term. It has a far better upside than Expedia.
    Jun 17, 2021 0
  • Twilio
    sadface1

    Go to company page Twilio

    sadface1
    wow no wonder the company likes hiring from outside the usa
    Jun 17, 2021 1
    • New / Eng
      JLGK02

      New Eng

      JLGK02
      OP
      London, dude! Got to work with what I’ve got. 😆
      Jun 17, 2021
  • Apple
    eibfe

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    eibfe
    Is this offer for software engineering role ?
    Jun 17, 2021 4
    • Apple
      eibfe

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      eibfe
      Ok, can’t comment on whether this is good or bad offer as it’s a completely different location. What’s the rent for a decent 1br or 2br apartment?

      Regarding the roles, Twilio is probably a better growing company. Rest depends on what you want to do. Both are fairly different roles. Working on Kube and backend stuff will probably open more doors.
      Jun 17, 2021
    • New / Eng
      JLGK02

      New Eng

      JLGK02
      OP
      I live in London

      2br apartment round where my friends/family live is £1.5-2.5k/month. Depending on condition, specific location etc
      Jun 17, 2021
  • New / Eng
    leet-zmbie

    New Eng

    leet-zmbie
    LOL I’ll probably cancel my interview with Twillio 😁
    Jun 17, 2021 3
    • New / Eng
      leet-zmbie

      New Eng

      leet-zmbie
      I think the market shifted a bit in the past couple years. Was already thinking of going to Amsterdam and then maybe to US. Keep fighting, if you join, do not stop your search for a better offer!
      Jun 17, 2021
    • New / Eng
      leet-zmbie

      New Eng

      leet-zmbie
      Do not be put off by what I said, Twillio should be great 👍
      Jun 17, 2021
  • Twilio / R&D
    Union

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    Union
    Twilio over Expedia even if tc was same. Twlo has better upside plus you have more twlo units than Expedia and only one year cliff
    Jun 17, 2021 0