Life as an Indian is all about waiting for Visas/PR.

New JWfV88
Oct 22, 2019 69 Comments

Currently in Singapore, will be moving to Amazon Berlin SDE2 , salary over there is around 100k Euros.
No chances of getting a PR in Singapore.
Germany PR/Citizenship will take 5 to 9 years.
Moving to US would be one option.
Is it worth waiting to get L1 and then wait another decade to get a green card?
Or out of the box solution is to try for PR to Canada/Australia.
Or stay and enjoy in Berlin.
Suggestions/Comments/Thoughts by fellow Indians.

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  • Salesforce β˜‰
    Serious question: why not stay in India? Is it that bad?
    Oct 22, 2019 18
    • Axtria racers
      @ninja agree, staying in India isn't bad at all. It's great if you have a good engineering job, but isn't that true for the US too? An average Indian struggles the same way to meet ends as an average American. It's a choice if someone wants to stay closer to their family in India in a polluted city with broken roads or move to a developed city away from home. On a different note, congrats on your new job πŸ‘
      Oct 22, 2019
    • Amazon ninjadevo
      @Axtria thank you πŸ™. I was in the US for close to 10 yrs. 2 yrs for my masters and 8 yrs to work. US is an amazing country. It gives you everything. It also has a nice way of taking back all of it once you start a family and as you age. To give your kid good education/college degree you have to set aside atleast $70K every year for bachelors. Surprisingly masters is more cheaper. But before that you need a bachelors degree LOL. $70K now, so imagine how much it would be 15 yrs down the line. Also the medical expenses when you plan to retire are crazy high. Most S/W engineers hit a dead end by 45. Yes ageism is a real thing. In case you loose your job due to recession or coz you are not as competitive as younger folks, you need to get health insurance outside which costs a fortune as you age. So, everything is not rosy. I would say US is the best place to live and work until you hit forties. It is simply the worst place to retire and trust me when I say retirement for S/W engineers is lesser than you think. So long term, I would say India makes more sense. Please work and enjoy when you get a chance in the US but remember that cannot be permanent. If someone asks me I always say learn as much as you can, save a lot of money, start a family if you plan to so that your kids get the US passport (so that they can return if they want for studies/work) and then plan to come back because things get shitty in the US as you age!
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Why so reluctant to stay out of India?
    Oct 22, 2019 0
  • New JWfV88
    OP
    The problem with India is you pay 30% tax for no infrastructure, no health care, amazing pollution and world class corruption but not all things are bad, good food and close to parent's are something to look up to.
    Oct 22, 2019 3
    • New JWfV88
      OP
      I agree, but I am talking in general if you want to live outside India things are getting tough for Indian's as we are billions in number and there are limited perks living in India.
      Oct 22, 2019
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      akshay1more
      Makes sense. It’s your choice. There is nothing wrong with that. You can be wherever you want!
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Amazon / IT hellopaaji
    Sorry mate. It's not your mistake that you were born in India. Shit happens
    Oct 22, 2019 3
    • Walmart XQLb37
      True, Hellopaaji. Totally agree.
      Oct 22, 2019
    • Pivotal yeezytaugh
      we don't have control over where we are born. that is a universal fact
      Oct 23, 2019
  • Amazon zwud35
    Get married to a citizen. Else keep waiting for life long.
    Oct 22, 2019 4
    • New JWfV88
      OP
      Easier said than done πŸ™‚
      Oct 22, 2019
    • Uber ripuber
      I'll actually take that advice if I got to go soon, provided I find someone there xD
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Microsoft darkjedi
    Try for Canada, getting PR is much easier there (takes around 5 years) for Indians, tech scene is decent in Toronto and Vancouver
    Oct 22, 2019 8
    • New JWfV88
      OP
      I am 31, 9 yoe, how easy is it to get the canadian PR?
      Oct 22, 2019
    • Nutanix RcLd81
      I would guess pretty easy. Search for 'express entry'.
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Walmart XQLb37
    Tough luck, my friend. While you wait for a Canada, US, or Europe residency - in the interim, working in Singapore, or Dubai etc. is an excellent option.
    Oct 22, 2019 5
    • Axtria racers
      +1 to healthcare scam. Read my reply above.
      Oct 22, 2019
    • New JWfV88
      OP
      Tech over here is mid level companies and a lot of banks, so I thought Berlin would have better brands and a better WLB and a chance of PR but the best part is I am moving to Amazon, so WLB Is gone.
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Yelp JMP2
    OP can you please provide breakdown of your Amazon Berlin TC?
    Oct 22, 2019 4
    • Apple KGHP41
      That’s a pretty good TC for Berlin. Go for it.
      Oct 22, 2019
    • New JWfV88
      OP
      I will be moving in November :)
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Apple KGHP41
    Move to Canada on PR -> 3 years -> Canadian Citizen -> Work freely in common wealth countries or come to US/Mexico on TN.
    Oct 22, 2019 2
    • Can you elaborate? What exactly do you mean by "work freely in common wealth countries"? Would I not need a work visa in this case?

      Genuinely curious.
      Oct 22, 2019
    • Apple KGHP41
      Yes. With a Canadian citizenship common wealth nations like NZ, AUS are easier to get jobs and work in.
      Oct 22, 2019
  • Amazon / IT JqKf12
    If you have at least 3 years of total work experience, then Australia might be your best option. Look for it in inside dot amazon. There is no claw back.
    Mine PR process took less than a moth from submission to approval. But pre submission process may take a few months.
    You should be able to apply for it on your first day. Look up Australian visa 186 Direct Entry Stream.
    Dec 8, 2019 0

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