Recently contacted by a FB recruiter and cleared interview without much prep. Offered position is E4 and comp is not much different. I wonder if it is a wise move. Facebook clearly provides better prospective career growth, and commute is shorter. Lots of friends work there and they all suggest me make the move. But the wlb horror stories on Blind really scare me and it makes sense personal growth is built on such "grow or PIP" environment. Plus, I plan to have kids next year. For LI, I like my life now. I also sometimes work 50-60hrs a week to complete sprint tasks. Seeing things shipped to prod makes me happy. But such workload makes me feel dying on weekends. I am not positive I can work these many hours every week for years if I go to FB. Any suggestion, please? YOE: 4
Who do you trust more? Friends who actually work at Facebook and care about you? or random strangers on here venting? When choosing teams in bootcamp, ask for pulse scores and be direct with WLB questions. WLB is nowhere near as bad as POS blind makes it sound.
How should I ask pulse score? What is good and what is bad? If I jump straight to wlb questions, will managers think I am a coward?
You ask it as the first question. All managers readily and expect to provide pulse scores - especially if they aren't scared of their team's satisfaction. Just state you are having a kid soon and am curious about WLB. Team selection is a two way street.
+ career growth + shorter commute + "Lots of friends work there and they all suggest me to make the move" <--- - Blind Stories? You have direct friends accounts and cannot compare that to a nonproportional sample from Blind. People write in blind for a question, comp questions, or to let off steam. It is a biased sample. If you have friends at Facebook, that is more valuable for understanding what the company is like.
TBH, many Blind posts corroborate my friends' words, e.g., busy, teams completing same project but only one winner, re-org, 33-mo to 5, hit-n-miss on good manager, etc.. My problem is I want to experience/challenge myself in that environment and don't want to get into the miserable Amazon life my wife used to have(no offense to Amazon. Just her particular team).
Do any of those friends already worked at LinkedIn? If not, their opinion should be taken with a grain of salt as they don't have a baseline. Usually change is not good. But if you want to try something new, there should be some clear and significant gain. In your case, it is short commute and potential fast growth. Potential fast growth is true but that would come only if you work hard particularly at your level. So, if you think that is worth a risk, please take it. And one more tip. If you delay or get counter offer, you will get a better compensation to the least.
Really helpful comment, thank you! I don't have any counter because I held mindset of "let's see what will happen" when I interviewed and I did not interview anywhere else. Speaking of baseline, most of my FB friends are ex-Amazonians so I assume there is a bias? One FB friend told me his code contribution is 18k lines in one cycle. Is this normal FB'er contribution amount?
18k lines is pretty average MA at E4 level. Also depends on the impact that 18k lines actually made
If the comp is the same, it doesn't make much sense to only do a lateral move for a shorter commute imo. Would be more enticing if they offered you E5 or you're interested in NYC. How is your relationship with your manager and what does your promo prospects at LI look like?
Nononononono. The people I met at Linkedin have had amazing career growth. Plus the culture is amazing. If you’re having a hard time growing currently, then it’ll be harder at Facebook, so you’re kind of risking your career. I’m sure you’ll bounce back if you get PIPed but let’s face it — if LinkedIn is not promoting you, it’s likely that Facebook won’t either. I don’t mean to be mean. You could be great but for whatever reason things are not happening fast for you. Have seen it happen to people before...
You sound like an expert
You work 50-60 hrs/week. Sounds like your wlb is pretty bad at li
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depends on group, org, position
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