Looking to grow as a PM in 2022

I had a really fantastic year at AWS. Joined as an L6 PMT-ES. Wrote 2 PRFAQs from scratch and launched 2 big products (launched at re:Invent) and a few iterative features as well. I am now feeling that I won’t be able to grow more next year. Too early for promo to L7. This makes me want to look for roles outside and explore a different product path. Does anyone have recommendations or want to chat? Blind tax - $320K #Amazon #google #meta #netflix #microsoft #apple #stripe #productmanagement #productmanager #product #pm

Microsoft bobbarker4 Dec 29, 2021

1) grow the pie 2) make noise If you can’t do #1 or if #2 is ineffective then find a place where you can do both.

EY lLVU87 Jan 3, 2022

Grow the pie?

Bloomberg Blind182_ Jan 3, 2022

I love that quote/concept Did you just come up with that?

Boeing FieldLover Dec 29, 2021

What were you doing prior to joining as pmt es? Trying to get into amazon as pmt

Amazon TimBezos OP Jan 3, 2022

Came from business school. Before that did PM at smaller edtech products.

Meta TomBrady! Jan 3, 2022

Good job coming in as pmt es out of mba. The mbas who come in as PMs (non tech) are making 50-70k less than you.

Amazon gegderts Dec 29, 2021

Growing the product you launched is a skill set too. Learn that. It's hard in AWS with useless marketing teams

Conga tormen Dec 29, 2021

Please can you elaborate?

Google YfHK37 Dec 29, 2021

It's the difference between launching and landing

Uber .🧞‍♂️ Jan 3, 2022

Eat your vegetables

Google girlpower1 Jan 3, 2022

Banana != vegetables

Uber .🧞‍♂️ Jan 3, 2022

Banana = Vegetable Tomato = Fruit

Intellum greentr33s Jan 3, 2022

I left Amazon before my L7 promo. Biggest regret. Stay there, get to L7, then look for another challenge if you want to. Grow your skillset in the meantime...

Amazon TimBezos OP Jan 3, 2022

Why do you regret it? Do you think your exits would have been a lot better with L7?

Intellum greentr33s Jan 3, 2022

It's easier to move to other companies with the principal title. Not impossible, but I wish I had stayed to my promo.

Amazon SMygdyh?! Jan 3, 2022

I’m a pmt-es too…launched new products and features. Learn to generate revenue next. Launching a product is only part of the story

Reddit XRRk33 Jan 3, 2022

Gauge the impact of your product launches and figure out how to make them successful if they’re not good. PMing is not just about “launch”.

Meta kylux Jan 4, 2022

It's all about impact.

Google vRTu$965 Jan 3, 2022

Launch is a beginning .. the rubber hits the road a few months later when customers run production workloads and tell that everything yellow and shiny is not gold.

Kaiser Permanente investnoob Jan 3, 2022

But what else could be yellow and shiny? 🤣 say it

Oracle jealou Jan 3, 2022

Pip soon

Amazon TimBezos OP Jan 3, 2022

What did you think you accomplished with this comment?

Dell landmafia Jan 3, 2022

His username says it all.

Google girlpower1 Jan 3, 2022

OP is clearly bluffing his/her success and want to make an entry into Google, Meta, etc.

Amazon TimBezos OP Jan 3, 2022

Clearly.