"Why do I need you in San Jose if I can hire 3 people in India for same salary"

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Mar 20, 2021 22 Comments

PayPal Finance FP&A (Analytics Org): The common thing that you hear in PayPal FP&A Analytics is "Why do I need you in San Jose if I can hire 3 people in India for the same salary", it has become so common that people managers think it is a proud thing to say bluntly to someone who is losing their living in the US. Very unprofessional work culture and no respect for people.

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  • I was that cheap engineer one time and trust me the quality of code was writing then was shit. Something I could do today in 2 days would take me a week then. Yes I have lot more experience but I think being here in US for 10+ yrs has taught me things that I better do my job right and in min time.
    Mar 20, 2021 2
    • I worked for a company that outsourced to the cheapest bidder they could find. The First 2-3 years were ok finance wise but from there onwards ongoing maintenance and snowballing lead times for every small change wiped out savings from previous years and then some. By year 5 they were up to their eyeballs in tech debt and everything came to a grinding halt. This happened to coincide with the tipping point for the business and they couldn’t scale so instead of meeting the soaring demand the whole thing went straight for the ground.
      It was a $100M lesson the founder did not learn because he founded another company and hired the same hacks
      Mar 20, 2021
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      halberdier

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      halberdier
      You still write shit code, just don't know it yet.
      Mar 21, 2021
  • Because:

    “Why do you need a people manager in San Jose when the three people you hired in India can be managed by an Indian manager for half the salary”
    Mar 20, 2021 2
  • Because every manager should also be concerned about keeping their job in the USA.

    What’s to stop the company to outsource manager job to India too?

    It is advantageous to the manager to have people physically in the same place/time zone.

    BAM! BAM!
    Mar 20, 2021 0
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    N034

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    N034
    As a manager, I refuse to hire engineers outside of the valley. The whole concept of staying up late or waking up early to sync with teams in India or the Soviet Union is crazy. I will never do that or work for a place that does.
    Mar 20, 2021 0
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    NmHS02

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    NmHS02
    It's a business and companies end of the day care about money.. there should be a system and rules in place to make sure it hangs in balance.. not far left or far right
    Mar 20, 2021 0