Machine Leaning Engineer vs Research Scientist at Meta

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Dec 17, 2021 18 Comments

Meta (Facebook) recruiter reached out to me for a Machine Learning Engineer (MLE) position. I’m currently an L5 Applied Scientist at Amazon with around 2 years of work experience. I decided to explore other companies. I wanted to know the difference of the roles MLE and RS at Meta in terms of work and compensation. I have a PhD and want to stay in research and do publications if possible. Also if I decide to move should I settle for IC4 or should I aim for IC5?

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    healthneer

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    healthneer
    What is the difference between applied scientist and research scientist at Amazon?
    Dec 17, 2021 6
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      no_idea!

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      OP
      This statement is not true. I have been to two teams at Amazon so far. We do have some SDE support but the entire end to end model deployment and maintenance is the responsibility of the scientists.
      Dec 18, 2021
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      @jian_yang

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      @jian_yang
      Have been in 4-5 ML teams and currently in one as well. Have observed the same in many other teams, what you’re describing might be an exception but not the norm in Amazon.
      Dec 20, 2021
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    lelouchvb

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    lelouchvb
    No difference in comp. Basically the same role (SWE). Research scientist title is mostly just useful for visa and green card applicants
    Dec 17, 2021 2
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      So if I do the interviews for MLE role, can I get an RS designation for the visa, green card filing?
      Dec 18, 2021
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      lelouchvb

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      lelouchvb
      Ask your recruiter. I’ve heard of it but not 100% sure. They usually only give the title to PhDs to satiate them. There’s no difference in the job though unless you want to go into pure pure research I think (those roles are generally limited though). But most RS and MLE are practically the same.
      Dec 18, 2021
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    pipdream

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    pipdream
    Research Scientist is a PhD plus tenure prof designation at FB (unlike Amazon where Research Scientist is just an AS without coding skills). Amazon AS will only get you mle at Google/FB. Rob Fergus and Cho (GRU inventor) are Research Scientists at FB!
    Dec 18, 2021 2
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    peitzl

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    peitzl
    Also interested in this question. I find it hard to believe that RS and MLE are essentially the same role in terms of both work and compensation. Do RS write production code at all? Is TC for RS much lower than for MLE?
    Apr 7 2
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      kittycats

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      kittycats
      They are. MLE is SWE, ML. Outside of FAIR (research pillar), SWE,ML = RS in terms of work and pay.
      Apr 7
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      peitzl

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      peitzl
      I’m interviewing for RS role in MARS org, and the role seems different from MLE, since it’s more geared towards experimentation of new approaches rather than deploying and maintaining ML models in production. I cannot speak to the TC part since I’m not at that stage yet
      Apr 7
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    HOKo21

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    HOKo21
    Hi, very curious to know about roles similar to Amazon Applied Scientist.
    Can you please DM me, I am out of DMs.
    Want to learn what all MNCs apart from Amazon have Applied/Research Scientist roles.
    Apr 13 0