Manager Wrote Doc About Performance

At Amazon for 8 months and not sure what to think. I have 14 yoe and am L6. Yesterday in my 1:1 my manager pulled out a 5 page doc about my performance. I have not receievd negative feedback to date and have a good relationship with my boss’s boss and stakeholders. The doc wasnt good nor bad but im confused as to why any of this is in a document. No other team member got this. thoughts? should i be worried?

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Northrop Grumman HowCouldYo Jan 3, 2020

What was in said doc? Also your prob on chopping block get out

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 3, 2020

It was worded neutrally referring to lps. The odd thing is my stakeholders really like me so not sure what the issue is.

Northrop Grumman HowCouldYo Jan 3, 2020

Prob laying it all out so that if you dip in performance you’ll get PIP’d

Amazon MopBucket Jan 3, 2020

I'd definitely be concerned. This is common practice around creating a paper trail ahead of a layoff or pip. Take a look at the doc, see what areas of improvement it outlines and think about if these honestly make sense to you. If not, consider finding a new team.

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 3, 2020

Yea I may just start finding a new team and throwing resumes out externally in case.

Amazon BlindIy Jan 3, 2020

Assuming you’re not already on a dev list and this is the beginning of it. Good luck!

Amazon foo_ Jan 4, 2020

You're on your way out, start looking

Rakuten tooQ10 Jan 4, 2020

My company does this kind of thing too, in preparation for downleveling or salary cuts. It's torture mentally. OP, start looking elsewhere.

Amazon SlhS10 Jan 4, 2020

Amazon won't down level you or cut your TC other than not giving new performance based grants. Amazon will instead put you on a Dev list and finally pivot you.

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 4, 2020

Do managers ever put you on dev list without intent to pivot? Just wondering since I can’t imagine my manager firing me. I’m not even sure I’m on dev list. I guess I get a lot of mixed messages at work. On one hand, we have great conversations sometimes about where we are going as an organization, and then surprisingly I get this doc so it seems odd. I’ll dig more this week

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 4, 2020

Also what if me performance on Forte is all positive? Except for managers

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 4, 2020

Thanks! I really can’t lose this job. I just bought a house and moved here plus my wife doesn’t have a job yet. Hoping to get this worked out.

Amazon PadK42 Jan 20, 2020

Forte does not mean much. OLR is for fitting the curve. Forte is a smokescreen.

Wish hémöglöbl Jan 4, 2020

If there was an acknowledgement in writing of some sort that you have received the feedback and read the doc, I wouldn’t expect anything good to happen unless you have been talking about a promotion with your manager.

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 4, 2020

There was no signing or anything. Also I did ask who this was for and he said just him. Which is an odd response. I hope this is just his way of trying to be a good manager

Wish hémöglöbl Jan 4, 2020

On a positive side, these may be prep work for your promotion. Preparing for promotion docs is a lot of work taking about a year or so.

Amazon gg898 Jan 5, 2020

Sounds like your manager has too much free time

Amazon tpigvj OP Jan 5, 2020

That’s what I thought when he first took out the doc...I’ve never even received a page of written feedback ever in my career

Nike sziptuv89 Jan 6, 2020

Have you talked to your HRBP? Not a bad place to start.

Microsoft NpSb08 Jan 7, 2020

Documentation about performance is always a negative sign with no exceptions.

Amazon fmjfn Jan 7, 2020

Untrue. I make all my managers write up a doc on the performance of all new hires. I schedule the review of this doc the day you're hired and ask how it's coming at the half way mark. It's my way of making sure that managers in my org take performance evaluation of new hires seriously and don't come to talent review saying generic "well he's only been here six months so I don't know much yet". The doc makes them collect feedback and show me that they know. I don't require them to show this doc to the employee but most managers, having done all that work, will create a sanitized version (removing the names of feedback providers) and give it to the employee, because why wouldn't they? That doc might say you are the best hire we've ever had or it might say there are serious concerns or that you're doing as expected.

Apple ZipRecruit Jan 8, 2020

So what happened OP? Promotion doc or dev list? Hoping its a promotion doc !