SeattleDec 27, 2017
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Mass PM layoff coming at Microsoft in mid-late FY18

Mass layoff and consolidation of PM (Program Manager) roles at Microsoft in FY18 Q3-Q4, especially in declining groups like Windows. Satya is focusing on cutting the fat and getting rid of unnecessary overhead that slows down innovation. Net positive for the company and stock value, but the country club is coming to an end for many after a long and profitable run. HR is crafting a message about agility and engineering culture already. Expect similar to the SDET massacre in 2014, but instead of eliminating the entire discipline it’ll be targeted at PM-heavy groups that have grown too large and deliver little business value. You heard it here first.

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Microsoft SHug34 Dec 27, 2017

Says who?

Microsoft Bezoos Dec 27, 2017

Says some anonymous person from Amazon. How credible 🙄

Microsoft Karsa Dec 27, 2017

Same anonymous person who started the tier list which places Amazon above Microsoft by an entire tier

Microsoft yMcg47 Dec 27, 2017

Many PMs at msft are totally useless and are generally detrimental to progress. I hope you’re right...

Facebook defabc Dec 27, 2017

Msft, the place with a 1:2:4 ratio of eng:mgr:pm. Not unhappy it is happening.

Microsoft Karsa Dec 27, 2017

Jesus where can I get that, I have 12 engineers and a bunch of ds

Google Yonaton Dec 27, 2017

I heard the same. Look at C&E compliance group under Tom Keane! Oy!

Microsoft QLIA15 Dec 27, 2017

Those actually helped me. Azure Govt needs help to get on par with the public cloud

Microsoft tCbL47 Dec 27, 2017

Agreed. AzGov is treated like a second class citizen. We piss off the gov customers enough and they just will not come back.

Toptal Ellie🍱 Dec 27, 2017

Would be surprised if skype PMs are not fired

Microsoft tCbL47 Dec 27, 2017

Skype crashes daily during calls, so they need to leave somebody there to p.m. some improvements

Microsoft Cjeirmfj Dec 27, 2017

Yes, PMs are responsible for app crashes and other message reliability issues.

Guidewire Lawn Dec 27, 2017

Seems like FB hires up Microsoft ppl

Microsoft Karsa Dec 27, 2017

Most companies do... Other than some Amazon jackasses who have a stick up their ass, the industry loves msft hires

Amazon Krjsoi57!; Dec 27, 2017

Yea the perception of Microsoft at Amazon is really not good. It is basically precisely because of the stuff on this thread. But definitely seems like you get the fat and not the muscle with a Microsoft hire

Deloitte PVaQ48 Dec 27, 2017

AI will take those jobs. Javascript can nag me just as well as a middle manager, lol.

Microsoft yMcg47 Dec 27, 2017

and that is why there are many female pm :) i’ll let myself out.

Oracle ensocbakao Dec 27, 2017

Sexism much, douchebag?

LinkedIn gaijin1 Dec 27, 2017

Meh. They’ll join FAG

Microsoft Karsa Dec 27, 2017

Who wants to guess that the op got managed out...

Microsoft B6g5r8h6gh Dec 27, 2017

+1

Microsoft B6g5r8h6gh Dec 27, 2017

Complete BS.

Microsoft hehv3 Dec 27, 2017

Garbage. This EM needs and values our PMs...

Microsoft Бабушка Dec 27, 2017

Really? For what exactly? I've worked with a few PMs who brought value to the table but for the most part the discipline these days tends to meddle with what can and should be owned by the engineering teams instead of doing product

Microsoft Karsa Dec 28, 2017

Well for starters most pms can formulate an entire sentence...