Men are responsible for unwanted pregnancies and therefore most abortions

In the thread, she mentions how 60% or so of those fathers don't even pay for child care and help raise that child. That's a way to hold those fathers accountable but might not matter if they refuse or cannot monetarily or are just HORRIBLE fathers, I mean imagine an abusive, mentally unhealthy dad...so an absolutely better way is educating men as much as possible before they cause those unwanted pregnancies. And when they do they are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law and we'll dramatically decrease abortions and it's a win-win for everyone left, right, man, woman, society wins overall. Just like healthcare, preventive care does wonders and saves lives and so much in costs. But that another post for another time...

Yep - charge child support, put them in pauper jails if they can’t pay.

False choice and straw man argument. The proper analogy to you would be to mandate women who have multiple abortions to be sterilized. You good with that? Why do you want to police the people of Alabama?

It takes 2 to tango, the man is ultimately responsible, but if a woman has multiple abortions, then maybe she needs education along with all her partners. But listen to yourself, how many women would LOVE to have multiple abortions vs how many men would LOVE to have sex without a condom and ejaculate irresponsibly. "False choice and straw man argument" ...nice try buddy LMAO

What?

Elaborate where the math/reasoning is just so bad?

Looking through the thread, what I objected to when I read it back in September was a smaller part than I remembered, and I might have interpreted it less charitably than I could have, so I guess I take back my comment. But to answer your question, I was thinking of this "argument": >Let’s start with this: women can only get pregnant about 2 days each month. And that’s for a limited number of years. That makes 24 days a year a women might get pregnant. But men can _cause_ pregnancy 365 days a year. In fact, if you’re a man who ejaculates multiple times a day, you could cause multiple pregnancies daily. In theory a man could cause 1000+ unwanted pregnancies in just one year. And though their sperm gets crappier as they age, men can cause unwanted pregnancies from puberty till death. So just starting with basic biology + the calendar it’s easy to see men are the issue here. It's unclear what exact argument the OP of the thread is trying to make from this enumeraton of biological facts or even what her conclusion really is. Yes, "in theory" a man could participate in 1000+ unwanted pregnancies in one year. Also in theory a man could participate in 0 unwanted pregnancies in one year. It's also true that a woman could not participate in 1000+ unwanted pregnancies in one year, though she could participate in 0 unwanted pregnancies just like a man can. It seems to me that the conclusion being drawn here is that because men have a greater extreme in terms of the number of unwanted pregnancies they could participate in (and also have greater freedom of date and time in which they can do so), that this somehow means that the *average* man participates in more unwanted pregnancies than the *average* woman does, and therefore men as a whole are more responsible for unwanted pregnanceis than women are. This is simply nonsense. For one thing, there's nothing in the above argument relating to whether a pregnancy is wanted or unwanted, so the exact same argument could be used to say that men are more responsible for wanted pregnancies than women are... but even before that, the math is wrong. Every pregnancy is the result of a sex act between a man and a woman (fine, in a simplistic model with only heterosexual PIV conception). Therefore the number of instances of a man being involved in a pregnancy is equal to the number of instances of a woman being involved in a pregnancy. And assuming there are equal numbers of men and women in the population (surely the thread is not arguing otherwise), that means that the average number of pregnancies in which a woman is involved is equal to the average number of pregnancies in which a man is involved. This is reconcilable with the biological observations I quoted simply by the fact that although men may reach a higher extreme in terms of number of unwanted pregnancies they are involved in, that just means the distribution is more skewed, not that the mean is actually higher. A similar situation exists in terms of the "two days per month" thing. Suppose the average woman is fertile for 2 days during a 28 day menstrual cycle and during her 2 fertile days, any sexual encounter will lead to pregnancy. Then yes, she can only become pregnant 1/14 of the time. But consider the man's case. Assuming he's having sex with random women, then every woman he has sex with has a 1/14 chance of being in her 2 day window. So again, the man's sexual encounters also have a 1/14 chance of leading to a pregnancy. It's symmetric. Anyway, as I said, it's not clear what argument the OP of the thread is actually making, so 🤷

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Elaborate what's dumb about it? Point by point please.

The majority of voters are female in Alabama who elected those mostly male state officials and female governor.

1) I'm a man LMAO 2) Stick to this argument and the points, don't cop out and clump it into "these arguments" 3) Unwanted pregnancies are due mostly to...irresponsible ejaculation 4) I never said "why not stop having sex with men all together"--where you get that from? Stick to the current argument Maybe I should also irresponsibly ejaculate on your face and blame your face for the outcome 💦 Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

1) I'm for abortion rights 2) this isn't sexist but biology, men 100% can control unwanted pregnancies, but women are the ones being shamed and held accountable while men are not If I irresponsibly ejaculate on your face, it's your face's fault right? Totally not my fault 💦 3) you clearly lack some sort of empathy You just showed how sexist you are, such a manly man, can't handle understanding women and what they really want—real men, not irresponsible men.

1) I’m for abortion rights 2) Biology requires both parties to participate. The post makes it sound like we’re running around constantly “irresponsibly ejaculating” into women. If you’re blowing me, then you already know there’s a chance you’re gonna get some 💦 So don’t act like “Oh my God how did this happen?” 🙀🙀 3) About empathy. I understand why it’s hard for women. I understand it’s a crapshoot for them. I also understand why they deserve the right to choose. I don’t have to throw men under the bus to do it. The only thing you’re doing is white knighting and trying desperately to be a SJW. A wannabe hero. But you’re on Blind, and no one gives a shit.

I think the equivalent equal right would be for a third party not to be able to tell a man whether or not he could have a medical procedure he wants to get. Which men currently have.

More like dismemberment than a medical procedure.