Microsoft Azure Compute vs Palantir vs (Possibly) Google

New Rurbo
Dec 24, 2019 55 Comments

Hello Blinders! I’m a current junior in college and have a choice to make about my last summer internship before I graduate. I am extremely conflicted about my offers and I wanted y’alls professional and life advice.

- Microsoft Azure Compute team at Redmond HQ (already accepted offer)
Pros: Team seems super interesting, and from what I’ve read, seems like there’s a lot of work to be done and chance to make an impact. Also better average engineering talent than Microsoft overall?
Cons: Is in Redmond, Seattle (very important to me)

- Palantir- SWE at New York Office (office mainly works on Foundry)
Pros: Cool + interesting product w/ Foundry. Talented engineers, and opportunity to make a big technical impact? Also: New York (very important)
Cons: Would have to renege. Possibly smaller brand name than Microsoft Azure compute?

- Wait to hear back from Google HC and accept if given an offer.
Pros: Biggest brand name
Cons: Would have to renege

Some things about me: I’m not chasing TC and I don’t care too much about reneging. The most important things to me are the opportunities to make a technical impact and learn a TON, as well as location. With location, I really want to live in either New York, Austin, or Chicago (Seattle and Bay Area are definite no-gos for me) after grad. Palantir would be an incredible opportunity in NY and I really liked their team and the vibe of the company (and I feel like it would be easier to break into NY w/ a return offer), but Microsoft Azure Compute seems like too good a chance to pass up. If I went Microsoft Azure for the summer, how do y’all think it would compare to Palantir in terms of resume value when I recruit for new-grad positions in NY/Austin? Also, what are y’alls thoughts on the quality of engineers between Palantir and Microsoft Azure Compute/opportunity to make an impact and learn a ton? If I ended up with Google, I think I would definitely take it and recruit again next year. Let me know what y’all think, thanks in advance.

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  • New Fvwk67
    I would go with Palantir. I previously interned at Microsoft and felt like my impact was not felt by the company due to its large size.
    Dec 24, 2019 2
    • New Rurbo
      OP
      If you don’t mind me asking, did you end up returning to microsoft? Or did you choose a smaller company to work at as a new grad?
      Dec 24, 2019
    • New Fvwk67
      Smaller company. DM me!
      Dec 24, 2019
  • Microsoft iamletired
    If you want to live in NYC, either Palantir or Google for full time. For an internship, it won't make a difference unless you're angling for a return offer. Seattle is REALLY nice during the summer, so it wouldn't be a bad place to spend a few months even if you don't want to live there long term. And there's a lot to be said for varied internship experiences. Chicago, NYC, and Austin are all VERY different so I'm not sure why bay area and Seattle aren't options for you. But all are cool places to live.

    There is no difference in resume value.
    Dec 24, 2019 25
    • Microsoft 10c5292v
      jesus, you're dumb
      Jan 1
    • Bloomberg Enig16
      Ooooo that hurts.
      Jan 2
  • Palantir 123459876
    I am probably biased here but having talked about this with a large number of friends who work at Google and Microsoft, I definitely think you will grow more as an engineer and can have a much larger impact at Palantir. The palantir internship is less structured than the other two, but that can translate into an intern getting placed on a highly impactful project with actual engineers, in comparison to the low value pet project you are likely to get put on at MS or Google.
    Dec 24, 2019 2
    • Microsoft iamletired
      We never put interns on pet projects. Not in any of my orgs, at least. They are regular members of the team.
      Dec 24, 2019
    • Palantir 123459876
      I guess maybe it depends on what you consider a pet project...I find that most candidates who I interview for Palantir who have experience at Microsoft / Google tend to have been given projects that consist of building minor internal tools or internal dashboards both of which I am (maybe incorrectly) categorizing as pet projects because I am using that to mean projects that don’t really impact the business goals of the company
      Dec 24, 2019
  • Palantir yaaaaaa
    I don’t have experience at any of the other companies, but since you mentioned technical impact and learning, I think you’d really like Palantir. A lot of the people at the company who came from other FAANG or HFs have stayed because of the impact. We work in small autonomous teams that are all empowered to make their own decisions and ship features quickly. People here are crazy smart and so willing to share their knowledge. I think part of this is the flat structure and lack of any kind of “stack ranking”. We all have a significant stake in the company, and it’s so it’s to everyone’s benefit to help others out.
    Dec 26, 2019 1
    • Microsoft tunacan
      "it's to everyone's benefit to help others out".... This pulled a tear out. I thought this only happened in heaven. Will have to prepare and apply
      Jan 3
  • Microsoft pxXW78
    Plantir will never IPO
    Dec 24, 2019 5
    • Better Mortgage ineidjrj
      Afaik palantir doesn’t own much data. They sell solutions (data analytics tools). The reason people find it sketchy is because they sell needle in the haystack analytics solution so the government can find people they are interested in finding (e.g. fbi, cia, ice). Source: interviewed there and learned the product a bit.
      Dec 24, 2019
    • Palantir yaaaaaa
      OP doesn’t have a good source of information
      Dec 26, 2019
  • Palantir Z5Y4X3
    Obviously biased but given your goals of technical impact and learning, palantir is easily your best choice, assuming this is for SWE and not FDE. The amount of freedom and responsibility you’ll have as an intern or new grad is far more than somewhere like MS, and you’ll easily be able to make an impact that far exceeds whatever small well-scoped intern project they give you at MS. Happy to talk more over DM if you’re interested.
    Dec 24, 2019 3
    • New Rurbo
      OP
      Yup, it’s for a SWE position. Most of my indecision comes from the fact that it’s the Microsoft Azure Compute team: pretty much any other org, and I would’ve taken Palantir in a heart beat. DMed!
      Dec 24, 2019
    • LinkedIn terracotta
      How's FDE compared to SWE at Palantir?
      Jan 10
  • Microsoft tunacan
    I have the impression Microsoft oversells the content of their internships. Intern turned full-time here...

    I just don't see how you can intentionally intern in a place you don't intend to work in. In case the thought of full time at Azure Compute crossed your mind, I will challenge to search for comments from people in compute. Spoiler alert - not pretty
    Dec 24, 2019 1
    • New Rurbo
      OP
      It was mainly the problem space that was super interesting to me. And I did some research about the org: it seemed like WLB might be on the bad side, but a lot of interesting work to be done. It was mainly the Seattle location that makes me not want to work there full time.
      Dec 25, 2019
  • Microsoft / Eng ERlc58
    I would've said Microsoft but I wouldn't take it if you're sure you don't want to live in Seattle
    Dec 24, 2019 2
    • New Rurbo
      OP
      I was thinking about taking microsoft just for the summer (Azure cloud stuff is super interesting for me) and trying to recruit in NY for the top tech firms there next year. And who knows, maybe over the summer Seattle will grow on me. But for resume brand and getting interviews, do you think Microsoft Azure is better than Palantir? Do you think this is a bad idea?
      Dec 24, 2019
    • Microsoft / Eng ERlc58
      I'm not really sure, like personally I'm biased against Palantir but that's not for like resume reasons

      I like Seattle during the summer, it's absolutely lovely, but I don't plan to live there either post grad
      Dec 24, 2019
  • Applied Medical decrypt
    Any update?
    Jan 3 1
    • New Rurbo
      OP
      Still waiting for Google project matching, but between Microsoft and Palantir, I think I’m going Palantir. (Hopefully) guaranteed NY location is more important to me than the interesting problem space of Azure Compute. Also, I think I’d have less of a chance shoveling shit at Palantir (although it could still happen obviously).
      Jan 3
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    Don't Palantir send all of their engineers to the border to help build "the wall"
    Dec 24, 2019 1

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